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Stacey007



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My Next Project & Help please (Soundproofing)
Back from work started to have a look at the job....


Lots of stuff to remove and its the first time I've ever actually removed the fuse box lid and looked in... Smile


Few questions for people have have done it.


1) Where is best to lay this stuff assuming for now I don't have enough to do all the car (but I will) I was going to start at the front and work back..

2) Is there any benefit or waste of time putting it on the plastic towards the front bulkhead near the pedals. Or do I need try to remove the plastic.


I'm quite looking forward to doing the doors, as want them to sound less like an empty tin can when you shut them Smile


Cannot get over how heavy this stuff is in the box's.


2 bulk packs to start with.


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With 8mm foam also


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Is this worth doing (near bulkhead behind pedals) over the top of the plastic? Its just resting on for the photo



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Thanks
Post #541096 17th Jun 2016 5:48pm
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Rickydodah



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I started with the rear load space and the wheel boxes and continued forward over the seat boxes and front floor. Didn't bother with anywhere where there is insulation already. Door panels were done as well with an additional 5mm layer of closed cell foam (CCF) on the back of the door cards. Roof was done with 10mm CCF. Floor area made more difference in terms of noise but doors and roof gave you that satisfying feeling on solidness. Overall it's a real PITA to do but well worth the effort IMO.
Good luck Thumbs Up I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
Post #541100 17th Jun 2016 5:59pm
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Scott_Landy



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 200 Tdi CSW Firenze Red
Thinking of doing this myself in the coming months. Please post photos and experience if you can!
Post #541193 18th Jun 2016 7:08am
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When I removed the headlining to have some dents removed most of my Skinz had peeled off the roof. Had to strip the entire lot off, going to redo it with dynamat, it's a bit thinner. Andy

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Post #541421 19th Jun 2016 7:37am
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
If you don't have enough to do the whole defender it's best to start with the biggest flattest panels, so roof, rear floor then rear wheel arches as this will deaden the stone and water noises while driving. Just remember though, sound deadening doesn't stop any noise from outside it just stops panel vibration noise hence putting it on flat panels Thumbs Up Ray
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Post #541444 19th Jun 2016 9:50am
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nitram17



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I dont know of any way around this but others might! ...one of the most common area for rusting and leaking is the bulkhead i would be wary of sticking down stuff to that area as it makes inspecting the area difficult and the coating could hide lots and lots of nasties........I would at least make sure all the joints are sealed before applying the sound proofing and i would lift off the plastic carpet stuff and give it a coat of bilts wax underneath!As you might miss the early signs of rusting because you cannot have a look easily!



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Post #541475 19th Jun 2016 12:06pm
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Stacey007



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^ I did exactly that on Friday, took the carpets up on the drivers side, cleaned and polished the bear floor then painted the screw heads with rust proofing.


Spent an Hour or so outside this afternoon in the rain... handy having a carport Smile


started...decided to do the drivers door first as the door do sound like empty cans being dropped when you shut them.


door card off


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remove foam cover



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Add sound proofing, very easy and nice stuff to work with, roll it on as best I could.



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Add a little bit of 'bling' while apart, looks nice but does not allot the central locking to open / close as too tight, will have to look at this.




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Door sounds so much better than 1 hr ago !!!!
Post #541612 19th Jun 2016 7:34pm
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nitram17



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How easy is it to get door card off without destroying the fixings?
Post #541641 19th Jun 2016 8:45pm
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Stacey007



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easy with this...

Only one clip stayed on the card side but easily swapped over, didn't brake any.




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1 screw behind door opener

2 screws holding handle you use to shut

Prize the door lock surround up slightly.

carefully remove the foam from the black tar like sticky stuff.
Post #541649 19th Jun 2016 9:05pm
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nitram17



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Thanks stacyoo7..im not going to sound deaden as there is so much water running from the bottom of the front door when you open the door after it rains im concerned obout the sound deadening stuff holding water ...im going to give the interior a good coating of bilts wax though and ive been putting it off because i didnt want to ruin the doorcard!
Post #541658 19th Jun 2016 9:36pm
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Stacey007



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Drove to work today,

Now bear in mind I've only done the door and part of the rear load area, some of which I hadn't stuck down yet just rested it on.

It WAS quieter... for sure, amazing. I was sceptical as it does seem a lot of money for something that you will never see and doesn't seem that much but wow.


I'm impressed to far, maybe not saying this when I have to take the seats out.... Smile



Also this should help?




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Post #541742 20th Jun 2016 10:05am
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Stacey007



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Bit more this afternoon over the passenger side rear arch and boot floor.

Really nice stuff to work with, also tomorrows job to cut the foam ready to sit on top before the carpet, then the mat.... Boot will be about an inch less deep Very Happy May fit some foam to doors also to make them thud more Smile


Used the roller to pad down after cleaning the boot floor then also used heat proof tape? to seal the joins. Looks quite neat although will be covered Smile


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Passenger side arch


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Using the carpet I will cut round slightly wider for the foam on top.


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From one bulk box so far it seems to be going a long way...


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Post #543400 25th Jun 2016 8:42pm
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bm52



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana
did you take the rear seats out to do the sides and wheel boxes?
Post #543411 25th Jun 2016 9:10pm
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Stacey007



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Honest answer no, I did try....


I've covered 95% of the metal behind, under, at the side etc, From what I have read about this stuff it does not have to cover the whole surface area to work. So should still be pretty good, and better then nothing,


I also have 6mm closed cell foam over the sound proofing then the original carpet, then to finish an extra removable carpet. So its pretty thick now.


Reason I did not remove seats, really struggling with two bolts on the first even though I socked them in WD40 over night. Then as we go on Holiday soon I didn't want to have a real struggle putting them back in if they are a pain to remove. I was removing them for a bit more room but the kids like using them.


I know that's not brilliant but really with the carpets pulled back, wedged open I really did get virtually all areas covered it just meant more cuts. There is little you cannot get to just means folding the seat half down and climbing in the back in awkward positions.... Smile




in fact more done today


6mm Foam cover over the top.



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Made fitting the seat covers fun as now almost a cm higher in thickness to refit the plugs..



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Back of boot from rear seats, sides up to trim now covered in 2mm silent coat and 6mm foam closed cell.




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Original carpet to be laid over this and them my removable carpet on top of this...


Fun bit will be to re fit a new Stainless rear sill cover now its so thick Smile
Post #543622 26th Jun 2016 7:08pm
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bm52



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana
"Fun bit will be to re fit a new Stainless rear sill cover now its so thick"

Longer screws Whistle Whistle

Have you driven it yet?
Do you notice much difference?
Post #543624 26th Jun 2016 7:16pm
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