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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804   
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Did a back-to-back test two weeks ago. (I say 'test' loosely). I drove the same route with the 2.4 and then the 2.2. Both were filled just before boarding the ferry to Calais and then undertook a non-stop trip from Calais to the Alps. Same route, same time of day, same weight (albeit the 2.4 was a DC the 2.2 a SW). Both were averaging 110kmh (speedo indicated, not GPS) and the DC has 18" wheels, the SW 16" wheels. Neither has a roof rack or other items that might create drag. Both offered almost identical in mileage, as mentioned already the light coming on at approx 450 miles, indeed so similar that I refuelled at the same motorway service station. The second half of the route was very different however, the tank 3/4 emptied getting to the Alps, (whereas had it been flat as above, it should have only used a 1/3), but not a surprise given the number of uphill sections and crossing through the Nantua pass etc.
I have done this route numerous times, mainly in the 2.2, but on the flat section, Calais to Dijon, I regularly get 450miles until the light and now always use this as my motorway benchmark.  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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14th Jun 2016 7:21am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17336  
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Sad, I know, but I keep a record of my fuel and mileages etc, and for my 110 the best, average, and worst MPGs I have recorded in the last 5 years have been:
Best - 33.64 mpg Average - 25.99 mpg Worst - 19.03 mpg On this basis, given that a 110 has a 16 gallon tank, the range would be: Best - 538 miles Average - 416 miles. Worst - 304 miles My 110 is a 2.4 DC with a roofrack running on BFG Muds, with RAI, BAS remap, no EGR, and (for some of this period) a decat. It is normally loaded to about 3 tonnes gross, and in the 5 years over which these figures are derived it has covered approx 150,000 miles. The remap and EGR deletion probably accounts for about 2 miles per gallon improvement overall. There is a massive difference in consumption between cruising at 55 and cruising at 75 - the latter probably uses about 15% more fuel (which is not surprising since drag is proportional to the second power or square of speed). To match Caterham's legendary level of economy I would have to achieve over 38mpg, and I doubtthis would be possible in my vehicle without either modification or halucinogenic pharmaceuticals! If I were to strip off the rack and RAI, change the tyres, unload the vehicle, and drive like a Sunday driver it might be possible! |
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14th Jun 2016 8:39am |
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| Alexke Member Since: 03 Jan 2011 Location: Antwerp Posts: 113 
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Never get more than 310miles in my 2.4 90...
how come? Discovery 4 SDV6 Landmark F31 320dA Msport xDrive LR Defender 90SW TD4 Stornoway grey 320d E46 E70 X5 3.0d Sold! FFRR TD6 - Sold |
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14th Jun 2016 3:37pm |
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| Fabio Member Since: 05 Aug 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 589  
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380mpg on a 2011 110...
Looking at your averages mine is below... 
It only gets driven on long journeys and I don't drive it too fast... 
Fabio |
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14th Jun 2016 6:01pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2101 
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on my 07 2.4 110 I generally get 400 miles from the tank - but have full length brownchurch rack & full camping set up inside ...
I also agree with Blackwolf with the max as when we were in Norway with a 50mph speed limit we were getting in the 480 range on every tank ... but in the UK I do a lot of motorway miles at 65-70 so that eats the average up a bit.. Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  |
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14th Jun 2016 7:00pm |
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| NinetyTD4 Member Since: 22 Apr 2011 Location: North Posts: 397  
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WOW, that is something  . Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel. |
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14th Jun 2016 7:15pm |
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| yaho Member Since: 26 Nov 2008 Location: Bialystok Posts: 200 
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Best - 33.52 mpg (summer, after being fined for over-speeding in Lithuania)
Average - 26.61 mpg Worst - 14.34 mpg (winter, around -20'C, 6 km trips there and back to work) Janusz www.yahodeville.com |
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14th Jun 2016 7:24pm |
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| Alexke Member Since: 03 Jan 2011 Location: Antwerp Posts: 113
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so 50mp/h - 80km/h is the key ?
I noticed with my Ultragauge that when i go over 2000rpm in 6th gear my consumption went above 10l/100km Discovery 4 SDV6 Landmark F31 320dA Msport xDrive LR Defender 90SW TD4 Stornoway grey 320d E46 E70 X5 3.0d Sold! FFRR TD6 - Sold |
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15th Jun 2016 8:42am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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Interesting - checked my stat's (only calculate the odd tank):
Worst 26.54 MPG (probably towing) November 2011 Best 31.97 MPG (summer 2013) Average: 28.57 MPG Not measured for a while - I think she's improved with age... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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15th Jun 2016 9:06am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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ooh also kind of interesting...
Worst: 25.1 MPG (definitely towing) Best: 31.5 MPG (50-60 MPH all day mainly in 5-6th gear) Average: 27.3 MPG Measured: over 21,540 Miles Speed: I worked out... (or just realised) that my Defender just felt happy at gear changes coinciding with 10 MPH increments... 1st > 10 MPH 2nd @ 20 MPH 3rd @ 30 MPH 4th @ 40 MPH 5th @ 50 MPH 6th @ 60 MPH Long distance, 'touring' at 60 MPH (in 6th) is the key to OKish MPG, I found that reducing to 50 MPH only gave a slight improvement but the car was not as happy in 6th gear. Towing: This suits me as 60 MPH is the limit for towing on UK motorways and dual carriageways (50 MPH other types of roads...providing no there is no lower speed limit is in place). Range: Typically around 300 + Miles in a 2.4 90 (56 Lt Tank... not pushing on too far after the warning light) Click image to enlarge SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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15th Jun 2016 9:44am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Skip, there's something caught on your tow-hitch
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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15th Jun 2016 2:15pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295
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Grenadier, your right...
but at almost the same width and height of the Defender and with an unladen weight of just 1200KG you can forget it's there. Click image to enlarge SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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15th Jun 2016 2:45pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Skip, in the nicest possible way, I don't think I'd ever forget that was behind me. Less so if I was behind you.....
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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15th Jun 2016 2:49pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295
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You don't like our Land Yacht then?
As we pass through the French Alps on-route to the Italian Lakes (next year), we'll do our best to keep out your way... Back almost to topic... the plan always for this Defender was to shut the office for a month (or two) and go long range across Europe, we plan to do the NC500 first as a 'warm up' hopefully in the Autumn https://www.northcoast500.com/home.aspx Have also been researching long range / additional fuel tanks, to allow us to go further, or push on more to where others don't... (as always each to their own  ) SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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15th Jun 2016 3:13pm |
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