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agentmulder



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Wheel overhaul -bearing/swivel/shafts/brakes & a catch22
Hello all, long post, read title and then skip to bold if you're short for time.

I'm keen to do an overhaul and check of my 2008 non-abs 110 with 100,000kms on the clock.

At the moment I know:

> There is a bit of 'defender' Rolling Eyes backlash in the drive train. I suspect some of it is due to the halfshafts and taking off the dust caps I see tell tale corrosion. In fact on the LHS of the vehicle the shafts are 'rust-welded' to the circlips and flanges. On the RHS front, the shaft/circlip under the cap appears to be new, indicating at least the Censored prior owner got one thing done, but how far did they go in....

> The front brake rotors are 21.5mm in width, and one appears to have been installed with significant runout (that has been 'fixed' by the brakes). The rear rotor is still within spec at 12.6mm.

> The external face of the swivel housing has a some pitting in it when the steering is hard across, and a slow but steady leak (via the pits right?)

In an ideal world I'd like to simply open it all up, inspect, write a shopping list, re-install, buy it all, wait for it to arrive, then install it all... DONE, happy car, happy me Thumbs Up. However, there are a bunch of lubricant$, paper gaskets and unknowns in there.

It is my suspicion that simple inspection may leave the car underivable - i.e. I wont have the parts I need to re-install it all - the corroded circlips are an immediate example.

Next problem - shipping of parts down this way is EXPENSIVE. Making pre-emptive buying of a couple of circlips and gaskets a non-solution. Buying in bulk works out much better in terms of £££.

Knowledge is power and all that - so I ask:

Given its age and the condition of the halfshaft/flanges as an indication, should I just order the whole damn lot? Rotors, bearings, shafts, flange, seals, gaskets, swivel housing, etc. (I have a new set of pads already)

Trying to cut down on unnecessary purchases, what is likely to be OK? (and/or I can check without the leaving myself stranded)

If I may as but the lot, where from? I see places like firstfour offer kits, but it seems like they use Censored (britpart) Neutral

Also, are the land rover tools mentioned in the WSM really required? Seems like most of them are built to avoid the use of a carefully bished hammer... Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
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WhathaveIdone!



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I have a similar age vehicle that also had a rough life before. The rear drive flanges on mine were pretty far gone, so I just pulled apart the rear axle - the result that the car is off the road at the moment while I wait for driveshafts, stub axles and brake spares to arrive. I probably could have put it back together and operated it in the meantime, but chose to use the time to strip down and repaint the calipers and do some other stuff that was outstanding. I also wasn't happy with the condition of the rear brakes which had a jammed caliper and the retainer rings and wiper seals hanging on the piston.

I have to attack the front axle as well and I am not sure that there is really a 'best' approach. Seems to be a choice between inspecting a little at a time in the hope that you can put it back together with minimal spares or buying everything and just going for it.

Probably not very helpful, but at least you know you're not alone......
Post #537860 6th Jun 2016 9:28am
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Leviathan



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I have done the exact same job on my 2008 non abs 110 recently.

My advice is to order everything new in one go.

My front drive flanges where rust welded to the shafts as yours and where an absolute Censored to get off. In fact I knackered the top swivel bearings doing so. There is a good chance you will do the same with yours.

The discs (rotors) on mine werent to bad, neither were the wheel bearings but I changed them all because I didnt want to have it all apart again.
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agentmulder



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Nice to know I'm not alone indeed!

Where did you source your parts? As kits? 'OEM' ?

Next task is to actually make sure I get everything Smile Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
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blackwolf



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My approach is to buy all the parts I might need, and if I don't use them I have them in stock for next time. The downside is cost and storage space, but when you need a part urgently or it's Christmas day or similar you'll be glad.

I pity my poor old relatives when I snuff it and they have to clear out my stuff, though!
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agentmulder



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Good call. I can understand the logic.

Part of me a screaming 'it's a 2008 for eff's sake!', feel like I've bought into a restoration project Laughing Rolling Eyes

Nice feeling when you take it out after a successful home workshop session though. I'd pay a lot more for my vehicle now... ugh... already did! Mr. Green Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
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Leviathan



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agentmulder wrote:
Nice to know I'm not alone indeed!

Where did you source your parts? As kits? 'OEM' ?

Next task is to actually make sure I get everything Smile


I got everything from here http://www.shop4autoparts.net/Defender

I rang them and they were very helpful, I didnt want the kits full of Chinese parts sold in some places. No connection BTW.

They do kits and use some OEM parts in them. I asked for Timken or SKF bearings which they provided.
Other bits that I ordered that are often forgotten were new stub axle nuts (peen over type for Pumas), oil seals, thread lock, caliper bolts and gasket sealant.

Download and print an exploded drawing of the swivel and tick off everything you need.
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agentmulder



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Looks like I've found some blokes with experience.

I'll write up a shopping and to-do list and post it here for a sanity check.

See if there is anything missing re. required tools also.

Thanks chaps, top work Thumbs Up Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
Post #538052 6th Jun 2016 9:14pm
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