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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769   
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I was picking up some stone setts for the drive today which were from a house on a quite steep hill. When trying to get up the hill with a small trailer on but nothing in the trailer I had no low down torque even in first gear and basically had to rev the nuts off the engine and slip the clutch to get it moving
 as I had to reverse up another hill I ended up cooking the clutch with the revs I was having to give it, and couldn't get it out of gear until it had cooled down. A good amount of black smoke was also coming out when revving and under load. Does this sound like turbo failure as that was my first thought but even when the weight was in the trailer the engine pulls nicely on flat roads and smaller hills it just seems not to have any pull up steeper hills and doesn't pick up well when dropping down gears for hills. Any ideas greatfully accepted.
Sorry for the essay Cheers Ray Ray My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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7th May 2016 7:01pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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I didn't but this was on a normal steepish road with an empty light trailer on and it was stalling in first gear. We ended up using the mrs tdci double cab which had no problem pulling the loaded trailer up the hill. Ray
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7th May 2016 7:30pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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I get this phenomenon every so often with mine, I can be across fields, stop to do something or talk to someone then when I start up and go to drive away it's nearly prudent to start off in low box especally if it's slightly uphill or it's sunk in a bit.
I think it's a bit to do with driver error, I have put myself in the same position and tried a different approach namely let the clutch out before adding any throttle. It goes completely against what you feel you should do and there are times when you don't think it will work but as soon as you apply throttle when loosing the clutch the anti-stall feature is knocked out. It is fairly rudimentary on the Td5 but it dos work but it goes against everything you feel when pulling off with a loaded trailer etc. Even 1st high will see you slipping the clutch way too far for comfort so it would be better to pop it into low and flip it back a little later. |
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7th May 2016 8:10pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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That's the thing though it did stall, the anti stall didn't seem to work. The Mrs's just drove up the same road with the trailer full in high box without a problem. I've noticed on some hills lately that I have to change down through the gears a lot earlier than normal and then the engine just feels flat until I get into second or first and this is just everyday driving
 Ray
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7th May 2016 9:01pm |
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| Bps Member Since: 14 Feb 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 822 
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Have you checked intercooler hoses and the waste gate to make sure it's not stick open or a split hose ?
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7th May 2016 9:15pm |
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| Bps Member Since: 14 Feb 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 822
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*stuck, 😀
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7th May 2016 9:18pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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It's had recent silicon hoses but I've not checked the waste gate yet. I've got a new turbo to go on when it goes in for its service which I got because the waste gate stuck a couple of times but when it stuck the engine just felt down on power it never failed to go up a hill before. Ray
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7th May 2016 9:57pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20282
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When was the fuel filter last changed? Just an idea.
My 90 stalled in 1st gear when the clutch was about to die, just came hope went down to first gear to enter driveway and then just cut going uo a slight slope. No symptoms at all prior except on the same trip the clutch was slipping I.e. Gear engaged and then drive taken up a second or so later, I could tell it was going but that quickly. Hopefully it won't be that for you though. |
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7th May 2016 10:25pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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Full service less than 6000 miles ago and new clutch 10/15 thou ago. It's the complete loss of torque that worries me as the clutch problems I'm sure were brought on by me having to rev so high and slip the clutch to get it going. I just googled turbo failure symptoms and the first post came up with loss of power and black smoke from the exhaust within the symptoms so they fit with what happened to me. I've ordered oil and filters today so I'll get it booked in for a service and throw the new turbo on and see if anything is fixed. Any more ideas appreciated.
Cheers Ray Ray My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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7th May 2016 11:21pm |
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| Fatboy Slim Member Since: 04 Feb 2008 Location: Bridgend Posts: 1006 
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Airflow meter
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8th May 2016 7:08am |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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I'll give it a go but that was new a couple of years ago too
 Ray
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8th May 2016 9:53am |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1418 
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New silicon hose popped off ??
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8th May 2016 12:13pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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Just checked and all hoses are In place and tight Ray
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8th May 2016 4:13pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2222 
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Handbrake sticking on? 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread
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8th May 2016 4:16pm |
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