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ARC99

Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1831

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What right has the leader of any foreign country to come to this Country of ours and tell us what to do. Thousands gave there lives in two world wars to keep the world free from German rule. Some of our elected leaders have seen fit to just give away what those lives prevented, and they have the turned up at the Cenotaph each year and laid wreaths to the memory of the fallen. What a mockery.

Do I want German rule? NO!
Do I want to be in the EU? NO!
Do I want to be protected by German armed forces that Merkel wants? NO!

Do I want to be British ? YES!
Do I want to be free? YES!

Which way will I votes? You have a guess. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to

us off.

Richard

24th Apr 2016 7:15pm

Projectblue

Member Since: 22 Nov 2011
Location: Devon
Posts: 1096

Seriously?

New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info

24th Apr 2016 8:53pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5038

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

We are British
We are free
We arent being told anything Mike

24th Apr 2016 9:49pm

RobKeay

Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1585

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

I always thought people with defenders were too busy getting jobs done to get so angry about Europe. Harping back to the Second World War will help to provide a well balanced argument.

Years ago you needed to respect your elders but now it's unless they are over 85, as Britain hasn't forced anyone to fight for the mother land.

"If Europe were once united in the sharing of its common inheritance, there would be no limit to the happiness, to the prosperity and glory which its three or four hundred million people would enjoy." Winston Churchill

24th Apr 2016 9:52pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

To the OP.Telling or advising? Would have thort the most racist,nationalistic contributions would also be screaming for "freedom of speech".No??

Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

25th Apr 2016 2:10pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

custom90steve wrote:
Joetheplumber - "However, there is irrefutable proof that leaving would be a good thing - Tony Blair wants us to stay in...!"
They all do, they all have vested interest. They all want the average public to believe it is their interests to stay in too.
It isn't it's the super rich and the super rich trade that does.
Look how LR turned out now it's owned by India, Defender thrown out and chase the rich buying a new FFRR each year.

Fatboyslim - "No plan seems to be in place for farmers in the event of an exit "
Well currently, although I'm not expert with milk prices at rock bottom and a in-ept govt that does nothing for anyone bar the super rich that's an issue in its self.
EU subsidies are an excuse for th UK govt to not subsidies it's own farming and pocket the difference.
And last but not least why the hell aren't we selling more British produce over here.
No we have German Lidl and Aldi etc selling their cheaper goods from Europe and lowering and lowering the prices for British farmers.
Unless we as a public do something about it we are creating our own demise.

Difficult to tell what you are highlighting,lol......But it looks like you assume the problem is with the super rich??The super rich will ALWAYS want cheap labour.Which means the uk will ALWAYS HAVE OPEN BOARDERS FOR UNEDUCATED,CHEAP MIGRANT LABOUR,you have to be a typical, uneducated racist,not to work that one out..So that is not the fault of the migrant labourers,but the fault of multi-national corporation,So for all you ultra dumb racists,stop buying from companies that use cheap migrant labour,SIMPLES!!. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

25th Apr 2016 2:22pm

LoveTheMud

Member Since: 19 Feb 2015
Location: Weybridge Surrey & Pontefract West Yorkshire
Posts: 411

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Whilst i'm a no/yes voter sitting on the fence...I'm a very patriotic Yorkshireman from a working class background from a state school (an appalling one actually), now working in the investment banking sector in London.... Quite proud of myself for making it this far, as I was a real

at school

.... but a lot of me feels that if we were to just do away with countries and borders, perhaps many of the issues would just go away too. Yes there are many questions about the way we would or can govern, but perhaps, despite all the issues we face with the EU overlords, we really might be worse off without them? Part of me thinks that the issue isn't so much with the EU and our own Government, but actually with us as individuals not feeling like we have an identity anymore.

Love, don't hate, help, don't hinder, you'll die with a smile on your face rather than a frown

25th Apr 2016 2:27pm

gilarion

Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 5111

2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green

jimbob7 wrote:
To the OP.Telling or advising? Would have thort the most racist,nationalistic contributions would also be screaming for "freedom of speech".No??

There is a difference between freedoms of speech and being told what is best for us by an overseas politician who has his own agenda.

As for the rest of his speech about shared power being greater than the one and we would leave ourselves open to terrorism the man is a fool if he thinks the EU would not share information and intelligence on terrorists with us as we would with any other country.

It in many ways beggars belief that the official representative of the land of the free should adopt scare tactics and threats. Someone should tell the man we did not vote for him, and while it was very good of him to offer his advice it was really just written vocabulary, the same words that have been pouring out of fearful politicians both here and in America since the referendum was announced. The only real true advice that can be given is that no one knows what will truly happen because no one has ever done it before. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1

25th Apr 2016 2:59pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

No difference to being "advised" and "told"??? Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

25th Apr 2016 3:18pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

gilarion wrote:
jimbob7 wrote:
To the OP.Telling or advising? Would have thort the most racist,nationalistic contributions would also be screaming for "freedom of speech".No??

There is a difference between freedoms of speech and being told what is best for us by an overseas politician who has his own agenda.

As for the rest of his speech about shared power being greater than the one and we would leave ourselves open to terrorism the man is a fool if he thinks the EU would not share information and intelligence on terrorists with us as we would with any other country.

It in many ways beggars belief that the official representative of the land of the free should adopt scare tactics and threats. Someone should tell the man we did not vote for him, and while it was very good of him to offer his advice it was really just written vocabulary, the same words that have been pouring out of fearful politicians both here and in America since the referendum was announced. The only real true advice that can be given is that no one knows what will truly happen because no one has ever done it before.

Nope,freedom of speech,that is HIS thoughts,he is ENTIRELY FREE to express them..Ironically it is the Racialist right wing who want to oppress them,irony,eh?? Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

25th Apr 2016 3:29pm

gilarion

Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 5111

jimbob7 wrote:
No difference to being "advised" and "told"???

Advised, definition, ‘suggestion for a beneficial course of action’

Told, past tense and past participle, of tell, definition, ‘to make known’

The president was not in definition advising or telling, he was making a threat. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1

25th Apr 2016 3:32pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

As for shared power,we need to negotiate with CHINA,which is where MOST of our "goods" come from!!
If you don't want to negotiate with China then dont' buy from us,simples!! Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

25th Apr 2016 3:35pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

gilarion wrote:
jimbob7 wrote:
No difference to being "advised" and "told"???

Advised, definition, ‘suggestion for a beneficial course of action’

Told, past tense and past participle, of tell, definition, ‘to make known’

The president was not in definition advising or telling, he was making a threat.

TBH,He Went over my head,He is truely FREE to express HIS opinion tho,no?? Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

25th Apr 2016 3:51pm

gilarion

Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 5111

Of course he is, providing they were his own true opinions and not those of others. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1

25th Apr 2016 4:04pm

walfy

Member Since: 29 Aug 2007
Location: Frome
Posts: 2666

ARC99 wrote:
What right has the leader of any foreign country to come to this Country of ours and tell us what to do. Thousands gave there lives in two world wars to keep the world free from German rule. Some of our elected leaders have seen fit to just give away what those lives prevented, and they have the turned up at the Cenotaph each year and laid wreaths to the memory of the fallen. What a mockery.

Do I want German rule? NO!
Do I want to be in the EU? NO!
Do I want to be protected by German armed forces that Merkel wants? NO!

Do I want to be British ? YES!
Do I want to be free? YES!

Which way will I votes? You have a guess.

I'm with you on this. Isn't it just this last week or so it was announced that either a Dutch or Belgian Tank Corps was being placed under control of the germans? Just the start of the European Army that will weaken any Nations ability to defend itself. 110 D250 SE HT
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25th Apr 2016 9:39pm

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