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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3784   
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Thanks Brendan, but on say '13 & onwards Puma, they did not have built in side lights did they?
Pickles. |
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20th Feb 2016 8:11am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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All Defenders in principle are like yours Pickles, so with separate side lights. Only those with SVX, ICE, Fire, Raw, etc. style fronts have the sidelights integrated in the 7" main headlamp, and have the turn signal in the place of where your sidelight is located, and have at the lower outside of the lights cluster a 90mm aux high beam lamp.
Eric Probably overkill, but here are two pictures showing the two set ups. Standard front with separate position lights on the upper outside.  Click image to enlarge SVX (here a local ICE) front set up with integrated position lights, and with turnsignal on the upper outside and the 90mm aux high beam driving lamps on the bottom outsides. Click image to enlarge Seems you have some interest to upgrade your standard "candles" to LED? Each to his own of course, but my personal preference with the standard set up like yours would be to not connect the sidelights of the new LED headlamps (if you buy a set that comes with a integrated sidelight function), but I would replace your standard filament bulb yellowish sidelights by a good quality crispy white set of standard model LED sidelights. Plenty of posts about that here. If you do that, you keep the standard function and look (I personally think two sets of sidelights, and then different shaped, looks odd), but hey, each to their own of course, and you will have about the same crispy white colour in both your new LED headlamps, and in your new original looking LED sidelights. Now, the (cheaper) alternative for you to get a good light upgrade is to replace your standard fishbowls with the WIPAC clear cristal lamps, plus better quality halogen bulbs (even available from your LR dealer themselves), plus the upgraded Dutch Landreiziger headlights loom which will steer the full 14.4V to your lamps, and which will also avoid that your light switch one day will melt. And then you can leave your filament sidelights as is too. 
Leaving your sidelights, turn signals front and back, as well as your tail/stop lights just original is certainly no problem for you even if they are not perfectly water proof  , given that you get much more sun than rain down under. 
If you go for LED headlights, below is a picture of the Trucklite standard front set up (borrowed from TomekW) with the standard sidelights and turn signals also replaced by a LED version. I believe in Aussie the Trucklites are the most widespread and readily available, yes? Eric Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw Last edited by ericvv on 21st Feb 2016 3:20am. Edited 4 times in total |
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20th Feb 2016 9:18am |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3784
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Thanks eric, so I'd want the items without the integrated "side lights"?
Thanks, Pickles. |
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20th Feb 2016 8:09pm |
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| Vanderbult Member Since: 28 Oct 2015 Location: amsterdam Posts: 20  
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Hi Guys!
So im fairly new to this forum and this is the first groupbuy i've registered for. I would really like to get a pair of Nolden LED Hedlights, the chrome ones but i don't really understand how this group buy works. Would someone be so kind to explain this to me? I found a guy in the Netherlands (where im from) who can deliver a set with the hight adjusters and mounting trim for € 950,- but i already have the hight adjusters on my 90 so i only need the Headlights by it's self. So... HOW DO I GET THEM? thanks a lot guys! GR, Rick |
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2nd Apr 2016 9:23am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581 
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Hi Rick,
Group buys are in theory relatively simple. A group buy is just as name says a group of people agreeing to buy the same item at the same time at a reduced price. The trader can offer a reduced price as they may be able to negotiate a better price with their supplier. Now in the case of Noldens our agreement is that we stick to the right hand drive, left hand traffic, I.e. UK type traffic. We can not help our European friends directly. May I suggest you contact Nakatanenga in Germany for European style Noldens? They are site sponsors as well and have a very large range of lights. Hope that helps Brendan |
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2nd Apr 2016 9:48am |
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| Vanderbult Member Since: 28 Oct 2015 Location: amsterdam Posts: 20
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Oke this is clear to me now, thanks!
so what is the difference between UK and european lights? is it that the (for me, here in the netherlands) light flair raises up on the right side of the road to illuminate more of the area next to the road? or do these light have the exact same light flair and is it just some UK/Europe certificate for insurance purposes or something? Thanks a lot! |
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2nd Apr 2016 10:31am |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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We drive on the other side of the road, so our kick up is on the other side
They're all built to the same standard, on that note you're looking for the E marking which Noldens and other good headlights have, cheaper ones don't. |
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2nd Apr 2016 3:57pm |
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| forest172 Member Since: 01 Nov 2012 Location: derbyshire Posts: 355
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Are these plug and play? 2015 90SW Heritage MY16, 2016 90SW XS MY16 (123rd b4 the last build) & RRS HSE MY15
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23rd Apr 2016 7:19pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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Basically plug and play. Just screws drivers to undo indicator, side light etc.
A bit of string is useful, tied to sidelight, indicator wiring loom. Makes them easier to fish out if they go into the wing, especially if you have fat fingers! As long as you do not touch the adjustment screws extremely straight forward. Brendan |
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23rd Apr 2016 8:20pm |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456 
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Are there any offers coming up on these soon? 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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1st Dec 2020 8:41pm |
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| SJM2018 Member Since: 06 Jul 2018 Location: Bristol Posts: 296 
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I’m interested in a set too 2011 CSW XS 90
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18th Dec 2020 10:38pm |
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| Zirmbach Member Since: 16 Sep 2020 Location: Scotland Posts: 72 
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Digging up an old thread but if anyone has them I guess it's those who did group buy! Looking for chrome RHD 1st Gen pair if anyone wants to shift them...
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27th Apr 2022 12:40pm |
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| 110NTK Member Since: 24 May 2021 Location: essex Posts: 20 
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Well that’s 3 of us… surely more lurkers…. Don’t wanna risk the eBay ones…
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28th Apr 2022 6:59pm |
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| Zirmbach Member Since: 16 Sep 2020 Location: Scotland Posts: 72
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Every seller I’ve contacted has only LHD or gen 2
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28th Apr 2022 7:43pm |
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