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Dial222



Member Since: 12 Feb 2016
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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
300 TDi Losing Power and consuming Oil
I have loaned my 1994 110 300 tdi to my brother, I hardly use it since its a second Landy.

He lives 30 miles from me and has mentioned that it seems to lose power after running for approx 30 mins/miles, just as he gets to his or my home.

On the last occasion, he topped up the oil before departing and re-dipped on arrival after another bout of power loss and black smoke out of the exhaust. As expected, its lost more oil along with the power dip.

Any pointers to help prevent blowing this engine. It has just had a timing kit fitted a few weeks ago, before he started using it.

Cheers 2016 110 XS CSW
2013 110 XS CSW
2008 Disco 3 (Current)
2006 110 XS CSW
2001 Disco 2
1998 90 CSW
1996 Disco 1
1994 110 TUM (Current)
1993 110 Snatch 2A (Current)
1992 90 CSW

Half a dozen Discos and a RR Classic
Post #519264 30th Mar 2016 5:37pm
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dorsetsmith



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black smoke lose of power check charge air pipe from turbo to intercooler and back engine air inlet, place to start


also check turbo for oil leak air side and exhaust side too and

with the air pipe work off the turbo you can see the compresses side for the turbo the spindle is the drive shaft between exhaust drive blades and compresses side for the turbo if you can move the the spindle with long nose pliers in and out or from side to side more than 0.5mm you have excess play, if spindle can move too much the blades can jam up in the turbo and you will lose all boost presser also if change air pipe work corrections are lose this will cores loss of boost presser too, check wash gate too, YouTube video will help you to checking turbo



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Post #519275 30th Mar 2016 6:23pm
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Dial222



Member Since: 12 Feb 2016
Location: Sunderland
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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
Great, some things to start with, but not sure what this means.

spindle play to match? 2016 110 XS CSW
2013 110 XS CSW
2008 Disco 3 (Current)
2006 110 XS CSW
2001 Disco 2
1998 90 CSW
1996 Disco 1
1994 110 TUM (Current)
1993 110 Snatch 2A (Current)
1992 90 CSW

Half a dozen Discos and a RR Classic
Post #519282 30th Mar 2016 6:41pm
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Interlet



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Don't mean to be rude, but this topic is of interest to me, and I can't help but thinking some punctuation in dorsetsmith's post would greatly improve the context of it, and be far more helpful. I've tried re-reading that post a number of times to try and work out what is being said, and it makes very little sense. I'm sure we're both grateful for the help, but it is not easy to understand when it is just a collection of words. 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
Post #519311 30th Mar 2016 7:51pm
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
Take off the pipe between the inlet manifold and the intercooler, check for signs of oil. If there is excessive amounts present then that is an indication the turbo oil seal has gone, as said remove the induction pipe running from the turbo to the intercooler and check for play in the compressor turbine, if you have excessive movement the that is normally enough to condem the turbo.


If this is the problem a few points on refitting:

Renew all seals/gaskets
Prime the turbo prior to fitting of the oil inlet pipe (a syringe is best to add the oil)
Clean out all the pipes, inlet manifold and intercooler as they will probably be soaked in oil.

Finaly to keep your turbo in good condition don't for get run up and run down procedures, ie leave it for a few mins on idle prior to driving and a few mins on idle prior to switching off.

Hope this helps. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #519439 31st Mar 2016 1:26am
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jfh



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South Africa 2007 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Chawton White
Describe excessive oil in the turbo to intercooler pipe. I cleaned mine on 120k and it was evenly wet.
Post #519455 31st Mar 2016 5:50am
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AJC



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Mash wrote:
Take off the pipe between the inlet manifold and the intercooler, check for signs of oil. If there is excessive amounts present then that is an indication the turbo oil seal has gone, as said remove the induction pipe running from the turbo to the intercooler and check for play in the compressor turbine, if you have excessive movement the that is normally enough to condem the turbo.


If this is the problem a few points on refitting:

Renew all seals/gaskets
Prime the turbo prior to fitting of the oil inlet pipe (a syringe is best to add the oil)
Clean out all the pipes, inlet manifold and intercooler as they will probably be soaked in oil.

Finaly to keep your turbo in good condition don't for get run up and run down procedures, ie leave it for a few mins on idle prior to driving and a few mins on idle prior to switching off.

Hope this helps.


Perfect advice, however ill be honest and say i've never done warm up or cool down on any of my land Rovers.
Post #519459 31st Mar 2016 6:18am
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
jfh wrote:
Describe excessive oil in the turbo to intercooler pipe. I cleaned mine on 120k and it was evenly wet.


You will always have some residue in the pipes on older vehicles, turbos will let some oil seep out, new vehicles should be clean and dry.

If you run your finger around the internal section of a pipe a small film of oil will be present on olde wagons, however if you do this and you have a finger soaked in oil then that is excessive. Basically if you have some small residue in the pipe I wouldn't worry too much, you can clean them up and observe however cleaning of the intercooler would be needed to ensure that doesn't keep contaminating the pipe work. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #519525 31st Mar 2016 10:27am
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dorsetsmith



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Interlet wrote:
Don't mean to be rude, but this topic is of interest to me, and I can't help but thinking some punctuation in dorsetsmith's post would greatly improve the context of it, and be far more helpful. I've tried re-reading that post a number of times to try and work out what is being said, and it makes very little sense. I'm sure we're both grateful for the help, but it is not easy to understand when it is just a collection of words.



work in progress Whistle
Post #519527 31st Mar 2016 10:31am
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