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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1641  
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Hi mate,
Try removing the seat rails from the base. rather than the seat from the rails... Slide the seat fully back... unbolt the front rails from the base... the seat forward and undo the rear ones. Once the rails are off, you can get the seat off the rails, then fit the new risers, finally bolt the seat onto them. Should work... 
Pete. YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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25th Mar 2016 10:34pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410 
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Hi G. Yes had the nuts are rivinuts and yes this is a common issue. Grab yourself a mole wrench, clamp it on the rivinut in question. You may need to climb under the vehicle, depends which nut is turning. Then undo the bolt as normal.
You can tighten the rivinut in situ after you have removed the seat. See the modification section for a thread on a home made rivinut tool. I will be doing the same tomorrow... Good luck. G. |
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25th Mar 2016 10:37pm |
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| Enid_Puceflange Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: edinburgh Posts: 1172  
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Hi Yolo,
Sorry I should have given more information 
My seats aren't standard Defender seats. I have Cobra bucket seats that are not fitted to sliders (no adjustment) And are fitted direct to the seatbox through rails welded to the seat base I just want a bit more height and wish to fit my Exmoor risers, but need to unbolt the seat. But can't  My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years. |
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25th Mar 2016 10:39pm |
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| Enid_Puceflange Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: edinburgh Posts: 1172
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Guy,
Can I access from under the vehicle? Is the drivers seatbox not a closed area like the passenger side battery box?  My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years. |
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25th Mar 2016 10:40pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1641
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Good luck...! That mole grip solution should work...  YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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25th Mar 2016 10:43pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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Hi it all de depends which rivinut is spinning. Road-side is accessed from inside the seat box, passenger side from underneath. This is incidentally one of the only times a mole wrench is actually the right tool. Tighten just enough to grip but not enough to crush the rivinut. Look to rotate the wrench until it abuts something that will prevent it from turning whilst you unscrew the bolt from the cab. |
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25th Mar 2016 10:49pm |
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| Enid_Puceflange Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: edinburgh Posts: 1172
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Isn't it typical,
It's the outermost front that is spinning!! 
That's what I love / hate about defender ownership, every simple job needs a major problem solving equation to complete!!  My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years. |
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25th Mar 2016 11:21pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2635
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All the ones I've seen don't have rivnuts but a simple nut plate held in place by a rivet. If the nut shears off the plate or the rivet fails then it will turn freely. Perhaps later models have rivnuts to achieve the same end.
Either way you need to access the offending fixing from underneath the panel in order to hold it in place while the bolt is removed. If your seat bases are removeable then you can generally do this through the battery box or under-seat compartment opening easily enough, if not then it's lie underneath and reach up time. Might be a two person job. |
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26th Mar 2016 12:09am |
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| jonny2tanx Member Since: 06 Jul 2014 Location: Harpenden, Herts Posts: 156 
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If you cant access it from underneath, depending on how tight the bolt is in the rivnut, you may be able to apply some upward force under the seat rail whilst trying to unbolt it. It may, if you're lucky, pull the rivnut upwards putting a fatter part of the rivnut into the hole or at least stop it from spinning.
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26th Mar 2016 12:57pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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Just drill it out and start again
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26th Mar 2016 1:02pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1641
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Totally great answer!!
YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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26th Mar 2016 3:42pm |
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