sako243 wrote:

So how do the Norwegian ones hold up to rough handling? I would love a jacket that I can take on clays, lie in the mud at Bisley, not too hot for walking the dog but also survive crawling / smashing through brambles. Oh and ideally be usuable in rock climbing situations
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Hells teeth, what are you getting up to in Surrey? Seems to have become a lot tougher and a lot less Home Counties than when I left 8 years ago. Crawling? Use South West Trains. Rock Climbing? Use the escalator. Lie in the mud at Bisley? Sit in a chair on one of the club house verandas and enjoy an early evening tipple.....  Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

sako243 wrote:

I get the feeling (no basis for it though) that the wax jackets would hold up better to pushing through brambles.

There is a basis for it.


I have four, an old Border I had when I was at school and must be about 15 years old or more, it smells a bit and lives in the back of the Landy. A Classic Bedale which is nice and light for everyday and two long coats which I rarely use but generally come into their own in either heavy snow (rarer now I'm in Hampshire than when I was growing up in Shropshire) or torrential summer downpours.

I've never liked man made fibres for jackets, the allegedly "breathable" fabric seems to always make me sweat and get damper than I would do just being rained on...

sako243 wrote:

With regards to Bisley - you must be one of those darn summer shooters . I just tried to find a photo from a couple of years back where shooting was temporarily paused due to the lack of visibility. Because of snow.

You're not a Winter shooter until you've done a 48hr Company Strength Live Firing exercise in January at Yakima Artillery Range (160.000sqkm of Washington State wilderness), in Light Role, via 10km insertion and extraction, with all Company Level assets (mortars, grenades, GMPG, LAW etc) supported by US Army Humvess sporting .50cal pintle mounted Brownings and a pair of National Guard A-10s, all at -25c. Have a good photo somewhere, will tack it down...

Then there's live firing on an Arctic ex in Norway, a handful in Canada in Winter and not to mention the coldest I have ever been in the UK, in your homeland in December, Brecon, where I have never seen the sunshine, but have been led to believe it does :

Having said all that, whilst Ranges are great in Summer, I always preferred cold weather environments for live firing. Summer in Pirbright, the Plain, Otterburn etc, f***ing miserable with the sweat, cam cream dripping in your eyes, midges buzzing, dust, twigs, brambles inside your clothing or stuck to your face. Horrible

But then there's lying in a desert at 50c firing gazillions of rounds with the Yanks in Iraq. No ammo limits with that lot. Fire as many as you can as fast as you can. Hooyah!!  Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

Grenadier wrote:

You're not a Winter shooter until you've done a 48hr Company Strength Live Firing exercise in January at Yakima Artillery Range (160.000sqkm of Washington State wilderness), in Light Role, via 10km insertion and extraction, with all Company Level assets (mortars, grenades, GMPG, LAW etc) supported by US Army Humvess sporting .50cal pintle mounted Brownings and a pair of National Guard A-10s, all at -25c.

Then there's live firing on an Arctic ex in Norway, a handful in Canada in Winter

keith wrote:

This is the one I have . Tokihito military .
http://www.endclothing.com/us/barbour-x-to...acket.html

jst wrote:

its it going to be wet i wear a paramo smock underneath - now paramo that is quality kit.