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Captainsmate



Member Since: 14 Aug 2015
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
90 tdci rear seat change
Hi, is it possible to change the front facing rear seats in my 2009 90 to the old inward facing versions?
If it is possible are all the mounting points available (seat belts etc) or will the mountings need to be drilled?
Cheers
Captainsmate
Post #511711 7th Mar 2016 6:23pm
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Ryderoo



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Hi Captainsmate,

Have a look at this link, it may help

http://www.exmoortrim.co.uk/store/defender...seats.html Cheers Simon

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Post #511823 7th Mar 2016 10:17pm
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ickle



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I think it will fail MOT / invalid insurance for road use and all sorts of grief if you do swap them.

I can't think of any other reason than 'LR had to' to spends millions on developing the forward facing seats,

Keith
Post #511828 7th Mar 2016 10:22pm
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Hello Captinsmate

Yes it can be done, take a look here...

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic33204....p;start=45
(Scroll down further on the above thread to see the explanation...)


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Seat Review...

http://funrover.com/reviews/exmoor-trim-xs-fold-up-seat-review/ SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html
Post #511841 7th Mar 2016 10:37pm
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Captainsmate



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Thanks for the replies and the info.
Can't see why it would fail an MOT but can understand the insurance issues.
I need the extra seats so will continue and send new posts as updates.
Cheers.
Captains ate.
Post #512196 8th Mar 2016 8:23pm
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Captainsmate



Member Since: 14 Aug 2015
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Thanks for the replies and the info.
Can't see why it would fail an MOT but can understand the insurance issues.
I need the extra seats so will continue and send new posts as updates.
Cheers.
Captains ate.
Post #512197 8th Mar 2016 8:26pm
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Riccarton



Member Since: 10 Aug 2015
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Scotland 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Zambezi Silver
I'm looking to add a pair of side facing seats to my 90HT primarily as somewhere for my 10 yr old daughter to shelter whilst at horse / pony events. Not really as transport seats but.... if they're fitted they have to be legit Big Cry

I spoke to NFU (been insured with them for years) who said no problem so long as my V5 was corrected and the installation was accompanied by an engineers report - i.e. the garage had to fit them, not me, and an invoice must be raised to show what has been done (according to the NFU rep').

There are a lot of smoke and mirrors around the whole seating issue with the Defender and people are correctly concerned. It doesn't help when you get advice from VOSA etc who really don't have a clue. Personally, with the blessing of the NFU, I'm going to risk it and install the seats.

Good luck Thumbs Up
Post #512209 8th Mar 2016 8:49pm
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RobKeay



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You would have to off your head to put a child in a side facing seat, with a lap belt. I had a low speed crunch and everyone was fine in the front but the side facing passenger got a cracked rib.
Post #512227 8th Mar 2016 9:24pm
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Riccarton



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I obviously can't speak for others but like I said - I only want them for during shows / events so when it's cold or wet my daughter can have somewhere warm & dry to play her games / rest etc. I'm too bone idle to take the seats out whenever I'm travelling so they need to be legit (even if they're not occupied).

Having said that when we go with the horse trailer to the local forests SWMBO will use one while my daughter occupies the front passenger seat. At the moment SWMBO just sits on the wheel arch but remember, we have 3 horses in tow in a 17' horse trailer on single carriageway B roads. If we get to 30mph we're flying along!!
Post #512246 8th Mar 2016 9:55pm
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Caterham



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I think it's fair to say that whats road legal and what car manufacturers have to achieve are two very different things.
Post #512312 9th Mar 2016 7:39am
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dnorrishill



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If your truck already has front facing seats the wheel arches will be a different shape to standard hardtop and you may find that inward facing seats do not fit.

If you look at Exmoortrim I believe that most (or all) load area seats are designed to fit to the square wheel arches and not the "cut out" ones as fitted to station wagons with forward facing seats.
Post #512430 9th Mar 2016 1:07pm
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dnorrishill



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Also looking at the photos above - I am pretty sure that the race harnesses used are neither safe or legal.
Post #512432 9th Mar 2016 1:08pm
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Arran73



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RobKeay wrote:
You would have to off your head to put a child in a side facing seat, with a lap belt. I had a low speed crunch and everyone was fine in the front but the side facing passenger got a cracked rib.


Totally agree very unsafe
Post #512434 9th Mar 2016 1:14pm
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