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Safari Snorkel
Hi,

Does anyone know of any video tutorials on fitting a Safari Snorkel to a TDCi Defender RHD? The instructions look a little confusing on a couple of areas. Any other pearls of wisdom appreciated... Shocked If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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warren



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I was going to do one when fitting mine, but as it was the first snorkel I've ever fitted I didn't, just incase it all went wrong!

What is it you need to know?
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mse



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Just follow it through - its not that hard

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warren



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And remember to double check the stencil is lined up properly before drilling any holes! And then check again, and again. And again. Thumbs Up

I wussed out and got a mate to drill mine haha
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[quote="warren"]And remember to double check the stencil is lined up properly before drilling any holes! And then check again, and again. And again.

That is the theme at the LR factory Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Puma 110" SW

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warren wrote:
I was going to do one when fitting mine, but as it was the first snorkel I've ever fitted I didn't, just incase it all went wrong!

What is it you need to know?

Hi Warren,

I was unsure how to seal the air cleaner housing drain hole & air intake duct. These are optional in the installation instructions, seems like a good idea to me, as that's why I'm fitting the snorkel! What happens to any other water that blows, drips or pours into the snorke intake whilst driving if these drains are blocked? I guess some moisture in the induction is good (moist damp air is good for engine performance), large amounts of water isn't...

I was really planning ahead prior to installation at the weekend, tooling, consumables etc. I've not undertaken any work on this vehicle yet, and I was just being cautious. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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warren



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I've not sealed mine yet, it was REALLY cold in the garage, the gas heater had died and the door wouldn't shut. So that job can wait till the summer.

I'm not sure what happens to the water that gets into the snorkel. I've heard that because of the way the snorkel is designed though that rain is dispensed and only clean air gets 'sucked through'.

Just found this...

http://www.4x4connection.com/tech/snorkeltech.htm

Quote:
Q. Will rain go down the inside of a Safari snorkel ram?

A. Even in a tropical rain storm, only a tiny volume of the impact moisture will enter the snorkel. The incoming rain droplets are broken up as they impact on the special, Safari designed, grill cross ribs. The high speed of the air strea as it turns the 90 degree corner in order to enter tne Safari snorkel, causes the heavier rain droplets to move to the outside surfaces. Here the rain is collected in the expanded lower body of the Safari air ram (outside the Safari snorkel body) and allowed to drain out, via the slots provided.


Having said that I've not seen any water running down the back of the snorkel when it's been hoofing it down... Then again it must work as there must be thousands of fully sealed snorkels out there with no issues?
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I saw one being fitted and they used longer bolts than supplied to draw the snorkel up against the A post, then swapped to the shorter ones to finish off - this appeared to prevent an awful lot of pushing and shoving!
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Denis



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Hi --defender--!
I didn't fit it myself yet. My friend did it - with total sealing. It takes him about 8 hours Very Happy And it was only disassembling and sealing, RAI was fitted before. Rolling with laughter
First seal all holes with some good sealant, then wait until it makes rigid. Then seal fittings among ducts. You need to seal everything. Without total sealing it is mere raised air intake not snorkel. No problems with water with proper sealing.

If you have a little experience in automotive works in my opinion it is better if you let to do such works as drilling to experienced one and yourself do sealing works. Or you may fit it as RAI somewere, and then make sealing yourself later.

hope that helps, all is only my opinion Very Happy Puma 110
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I never had the b@lls to fit mine so got the dealer to do it Embarassed Couldn't face drilling the new wing. Anyway's mine is fully sealed and has been fitted for over a year with no problems. The hood of the snorkel is larger than the down pipe of the snorkel body and has channels moulded into it to allow the water to escape when moving. As the water is heavier than air it hits the back of the hood and drains out through the channels. The safari website states it has been tested in a monsoon with no problems.Check out this VIDEO Thumbs Up
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try this
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mse



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I almost forgot to seal one (bloody) connection

But did it from the outside (well in the engine bay after hours of swearing Whistle Exclamation Exclamation )

My only comment - in my opinion - safari is the best snorkel in every respect...but the snorkel is an insurance not to play in bonnet depth static water! Mike
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mse wrote:
My only comment - in my opinion - safari is the best snorkel in every respect...but the snorkel is an insurance not to play in bonnet depth static water!

I doubt it'll ever be used to that level, just want to do the job right! If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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mse wrote:
My only comment - in my opinion - safari is the best snorkel in every respect...but the snorkel is an insurance not to play in bonnet depth static water!

I doubt it'll ever be used to that level, just want to do the job right!


Me to Thumbs Up

Actually im not sure doing it inside or outside which is better Mike
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Lorryman100 wrote:
hood of the snorkel is larger than the down pipe of the snorkel body and has channels moulded into it to allow the water to escape when moving. As the water is heavier than air it hits the back of the hood and drains out through the channels. The safari website states it has been tested in a monsoon with no problems.Check out this VIDEO Thumbs Up

Thanks Brian, I've seen that TD5 install before. The TDCi install is quite a bit different, smaller holes to drill for one, the method on my new snorkel uses bolts, washers. large rubber grommets and ferrules to mount the snorkel to the side air duct rather than studs. I note that they didn't use Silkaseal flexable rubber jointing sealer but what looks like silicon sealant. I guess it works too... If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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