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APK

Member Since: 13 Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 255

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Adventure Corris Grey

Burning smell

Hello All,

My Defender is a month old - 400 on the odometer. I had to drive it 140 miles from the dealers the first day I got it. 10mins into the drive I got a burning smell. Got down and looked around and could not find the source so got in and drove the rest of the journey without incident. Today, a whole month later I got the same smell. It does not smell electric or melting plastic. I can only describe it as a burning smell. Appreciate if any of you Landy experts could suggest a few checks I could do. I could not replicate it when I was at the dealers. I do recall the heater was on both times.

I keep revs below 2000 rpm and drive way below the speed limit. I don't think I ride the clutch either. Just wondering if its a known problem / any you have had similar issues.

Thanks in advance!

11th Feb 2016 2:56pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Not a known issue. Are you sure you are always releasing the transmission [hand] brake fully? Steve.
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11th Feb 2016 4:22pm

JOE_130

Member Since: 26 Nov 2014
Location: Chelmsford
Posts: 104

2015 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Java Black

Is it a sulfurous smell? Mileage intervals of around 200 would be the DPF regen'ing, I get nasty wafts of it occasionally when stationary after a cruise. On a separate note mine has a "hot" smell occasionally with the heater on but I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a burning smell. Mines got around 6k on the clock now.

11th Feb 2016 4:39pm

Gareth

Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 1097

The DPF gets very hot when its regenerating. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
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11th Feb 2016 4:50pm

Wild Card 90

Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
Location: Gerlingen
Posts: 1060

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver

Has it had an underseal treatment done at the dealer? It is very easy for some oily wax paint treatment to get onto the exhaust system and slowly burn off.

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11th Feb 2016 5:12pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

When you say you don't think you ride the clutch, if your foot isn't on the pedal you're not riding the clutch and if your foot is on the pedal once you've changed gear take it off

You don't actually need the clutch to change gear, you get much smoother gear changes without by just matching the revs.

11th Feb 2016 9:05pm

APK

Member Since: 13 Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 255

Miserableolgit wrote:
Not a known issue. Are you sure you are always releasing the transmission [hand] brake fully?

Yes, but I will double check from now on. Thanks!

12th Feb 2016 9:04am

APK

Member Since: 13 Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 255

JOE_130 wrote:
Is it a sulfurous smell? Mileage intervals of around 200 would be the DPF regen'ing, I get nasty wafts of it occasionally when stationary after a cruise. On a separate note mine has a "hot" smell occasionally with the heater on but I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a burning smell. Mines got around 6k on the clock now.

Will look out for this. Wish I could describe it better

Thanks!

12th Feb 2016 9:07am

APK

Member Since: 13 Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 255

Wild Card 90 wrote:
Has it had an underseal treatment done at the dealer? It is very easy for some oily wax paint treatment to get onto the exhaust system and slowly burn off.

Yes, Zagato did a great job with it a few weeks ago.
Doesn't explain the episode soon after picking it up from the dealer though.

Last edited by APK on 12th Feb 2016 9:18am. Edited 1 time in total

12th Feb 2016 9:08am

APK

Member Since: 13 Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 255

Cupboard wrote:
When you say you don't think you ride the clutch, if your foot isn't on the pedal you're not riding the clutch and if your foot is on the pedal once you've changed gear take it off

You don't actually need the clutch to change gear, you get much smoother gear changes without by just matching the revs.

I'm on a 150 mile trip both ways tomorrow. Will be very mindful of all the comments and report back if any issues.

Thank you very much for everyones help/advice!

12th Feb 2016 9:15am

chipmunk

Member Since: 10 May 2012
Location: Kelso
Posts: 264

I've had this smell periodically just after I got the car. Was quite alarming as it isn't a clutch or brake smell, or anything else recogniseable. I had never had this smell with previous Land Rovers. Occurs after a bit of a run out but not every time so recycle DPF sounds very plausible.
Hasn't happened for a while now.

12th Feb 2016 1:19pm

APK

Member Since: 13 Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 255

Thanks for that.
I took it for an hours run in London traffic today and did not get it. Its just happened twice so far and as you said very difficult to describe.

12th Feb 2016 3:34pm

gilarion

Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 5109

2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green

Sometimes I get a burning smell, worked out it was the heater sucking in air from the outside when someone was having a bonfire or burning rubbish.
The other day I was behind a car towing a caravan up the steep incline at the beginning of the Llanrwst road in North Wales, the car was struggling with the weight of the caravan up the hill and you could smell the clutch burning, which again the heater was sucking in, took about five minutes with the windows open to get rid of the smell. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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12th Feb 2016 3:35pm

APK

Member Since: 13 Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 255

Cupboard wrote:
When you say you don't think you ride the clutch, if your foot isn't on the pedal you're not riding the clutch and if your foot is on the pedal once you've changed gear take it off

You don't actually need the clutch to change gear, you get much smoother gear changes without by just matching the revs.

I'm very mindful of not riding the clutch. Foot is not on the peddle etc.

I do find it difficult to avoid 'clutch balancing' on first gear in slow moving traffic though (esp on a slope). Also, in reverse gear I have no choice but to clutch balance. Is there something I am missing here?

How do you change gear without the clutch?

This is embarrassing, I feel like a kid learning to drive all over again!

12th Feb 2016 3:40pm

APK

Member Since: 13 Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 255

gilarion wrote:
Sometimes I get a burning smell, worked out it was the heater sucking in air from the outside when someone was having a bonfire or burning rubbish.
The other day I was behind a car towing a caravan up the steep incline at the beginning of the Llanrwst road in North Wales, the car was struggling with the weight of the caravan up the hill and you could smell the clutch burning, which again the heater was sucking in, took about five minutes with the windows open to get rid of the smell.

Thanks. Is this even with the lever on air circulation vs fresh air? I will check my setting once again.

12th Feb 2016 3:44pm

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