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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Firenze Red
Great - thanks.

will do tomorrow and report back progress Wink

Cheers
Andy
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Force64



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can you take some pictures as you do it please

cheers, Andy Defender Td5 XS90
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Will do Smile

Cheers
Andy
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Appleby



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
A little heads up to anyone doing this. This YouTube channel has some good advice and very informative videos. This one may come in particularly useful!

Post #490214 9th Jan 2016 11:19am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
It is very poor practice to use a steel drift or punch to fit bearing races, as shown in that video. It's not ideal for removing the old ones either and certainly bad practice if there is any intention to reuse the bearings. You should only use a hard brass drift, since, being softer than the bearing race, it eliminates the risk of bruising (and hence destroying) the race.

Also, in my opinion, the guy in the video installs the hub seal too far, since it shouldn't be pressed up against the bearing. The proper LR tool as far as I know, like using a drive flange, ensures an appropriate inset whilst keeing the seal normal to the axis of the hub.
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yetiman45



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England 2005 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Blenheim Silver
The method I use to fit Bearing races is use an old race with a split ground into it then just gently tap the new one into place then place the old split one over it and tap it all the way home. the split race then can be removed easily.
Post #490241 9th Jan 2016 12:40pm
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Firenze Red
Hi folks,

Ok, photos to follow as I actually have not finished!

Thinking I was a smart arse, i bought a stub axle to replace the existing one (it had done circa 180k miles) so figured the bearings would have likely damaged the axle (it has but not terribly).

So, managed to get the stub axle off, actually no real issue, loads of wd40, leave to soak, impact driver to start them off, then they came off quite easily Wink

My problem now is that I have ordered the wrong Censored stub axle!!!

I ordered the stub axle kit from Island 4x4 part no, DA3199, which is for a salisbury diff.


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Now comparing the two its different and so i arsed up - well i think i have but jury is still out on that one Smile

Question is what is the correct part as I cannot find it on LRCAT or landcover workshop!!!

Removed Stub Axle;


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I am going to refit, get the car back on the road then get the correct axle(s) (will order two) strip back in a couple of weeks, and fit new disks, pads Hubs and bearings at the same time.

Looking at the Island 4x4 website, i think I need this part, my problem is I cannot get the part numbers to align!!

http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/stub-axle-rear-ftc3188g-p-27924.html

My truck is, X reg CSW 110, she has a Salisbury diff fitted (standard), I'm not aware that this had been replaced at any time previously.

Cheers
Andy


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Mash



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Andy

Model of your defender will help to identify the correct part numbers.


You got that in just in time Rolling with laughter 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #490254 9th Jan 2016 1:31pm
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Firenze Red
Smile

I'm updating the post so that its all there - just adding some more photos now!

Cheers
Andy
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Firenze Red
Ok, I have updated the post above with my photos.

I think the notch which has been removed is for the ABS sensor.

Other than that I'm not sure how else to identify it!

I think I need either of these parts:-

http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/stub-axle-rear...-7512.html

or

http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/stub-axle-rear...-7513.html

Neither make sense ;(

Cheers
Andy
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
Far too many blue bags for my liking there, I'd recommend a phone call to a site sponser Advance Factors, I have had excellent service from them with quick postage. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #490262 9th Jan 2016 2:08pm
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Firenze Red
Ok, but still doesn't really explain the part discrepancy.

I appreciate Britpart might not be everybodies cup of tea, but for me they have been ok.

I have genuine OEM bearing set-up, it was only the stub axle kit i bought as brit part.

For me its still a question of what is the correct part number for the axle i have?

According to the data I have its a normal (for 110 and X Reg vehicle) rear axle, which is a salisbury diff assembly.

Cheers
Andy
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Firenze Red
Ok, bearings and seal fitted to the hub.

See attached photos.

The driving flange idea worked a treat, but its worth pointing out a few things.

The hub has a land behind where the inner bearing race sits, this land is approx. 14.65mm deep as measured from the edge of the hub.


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The seal is approx 10mm thick (excluding lip height). Therefore pressing the seal into this land automatically sets the seal depth.


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I fitted the seal to the hub, then used an old bearing race to start the seal off, then kept tapping it in until the seal was flush with the hub.


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I then fitted the flange over the seal, being careful that the lip of the flange fits around the lip and sits on the seal. I then fitted a big impact socket onto the flange (so it hitting with a hammer wouldn't damage my flange), i tapped the seal down gently until it felt like it was to depth (flange lip is more than 4mm, so don't be tempted to keep hitting until it hits the hub with a ring (you'll push it too deep), remember the seal is only going down about 14mm.


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Hope that all makes sense, please give me a shout if not, i took loads of photos, so will post more if it helps.

Cheers
Andy


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Post #490380 9th Jan 2016 7:24pm
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Firenze Red
Before anybody comments as to the state of the disk!

I will going back into this sometime over the next few weeks and intend to replace the stub axle(s), disks, pads, and hubs and a nearside brake caliper.

Cheers
Andy
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rustandoil



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England 2005 Defender 110 Td5 XS DCPU Bonatti Grey
How did you get on with the bearing clearance? One nut with a spacer or two nut system?
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