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Stacey007



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Sankey Trailer what hitch do I need?
Hello


The mulled wine has flowed and I have the ok for a sankey trailer Smile

Thing is I'm unsure what hitch I need? I know its a nato hitch but what type seems so many?

This is my current set up, Ideally if possible could I keep both Smile



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This is what I'm after






Can anyone that has bought one please post a link to what I may need. As I need the hitch when I find one to buy. Thanks
Post #485635 26th Dec 2015 7:58pm
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Mike_B



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You need an adjustable tow hitch. Commonly known as a "Dixon bate drop hitch" and you'll need a NATO towing jaw. This allows you to mount the tow jaw onto an adjustable hitch that can be mounted high up on the rear to hitch up the trailer. You can buy two sliders, one with a tow all fitted, the other with your towing jaw. Both can be safely stored inside to prevent theft.
Another option is to mount a NATO tow hitch directly to the rear crossmember. There are four holes in the centre, just above your current towing setup.

You will probably need to rewrite the electrics to enable connection to the standard 7 pin wiring. Bulbs may need changed too- they'll be 24v as standard, although this work may have already been done if you are buying from an individual, which I guess you are as its a Sankey, not a Penman.

Legally, you need a breakaway cable fitted to the trailer. This allows the trailer brakes to be activated should the hitch fail and the trailer part company with the prime mover.
Post #485639 26th Dec 2015 8:17pm
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Stacey007



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Mike thanks

Looking at the easiest and cheapest way is this the sort of thing that could bolt to the cross member? THat way I could still use both normal ball and the sankey?

Seems the easiest and also means the sankey should be more level as high up?






many thanks
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Mike_B



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Do you know if the towing ring on your Sankey is able to rotate? Either the vehicle or the trailer (one only) must be able to accommodate rotation. If the trailer ring doesn't rotateZ that hitch is no use.

A genuine NATO tow hitch is the standard. They're tough, strong and can either rotate or lock.
Post #485646 26th Dec 2015 8:39pm
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Stacey007



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Hello

The picture below shows the nato ring on the trailer and it appears to be movable? so a fixed hitch should be ok?

That is the trailer I'm looking at?





thanks again
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blackwolf



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That is a Mk2 widetrack Sankey and will have (I think) a non-rotating lunette, in which case you cannot safely tow it with the pintle you've pictured, you need a rotating pintle.

This is not the first time this question's been asked, if you have a look at past threads your requirement should become clear.

If you were to bolt a pintle directly to the crossmember on a recent Defender you would also need to fit a reinforcing plate first.


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Rosco



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That's a MK2 trailer, jockey wheel at the front gives it away, and they have fixed towing eyes. Thumbs Up 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
Post #485654 26th Dec 2015 9:15pm
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Stacey007



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So a Mk2 = jokey wheel at front.

= I need a rotating nato hitch such as this...


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NATO-SWIVEL-HITC...SwZ1lWetkk


A lot to this....
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Rosco



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Fixed tailgate = narrow track
Tailgate and hinged leg = wide track mk1
Tailgate and jockey wheel = wide track mk2
Tailgate and swivelling jockey wheel plus disc brakes = wide track mk3

That is the hitch you want, especially at that price! 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
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blackwolf



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That is the best possible pintle (it isn't a hitch, it's a "pintle", and the corresponding bit on the trailer is a "lunette") and is designed for both rotating and non-rotating lunettes.

You can bolt it directly to the cross-member but should fit a reinforcing plate if you do. See

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defen...Sw7aBVHobF

You would be better off using a Dixon Bate adjustable mount with two sliders, one for your ball and one for the pintle. See

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Landrover-Defend...SwpDdVVeX9
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Mike_B



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Pintle it may be, However as shown in every link posted up to now, they're colloquially known as a NATO Tow hitch
Just to clarify, the backing plate fits between the NATO hitch and the chassis crossmember. There are captive nuts inside the crossmember to accept the High Tensile mounting hardware. The welded loops are for a breakaway cable should the hitch fail.

Keep it clean and greased and it'll last a lifetime.
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Nevillerover



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I use a combined ball and NATO mounted to an adjustable Dixon bate so I can tow sankey or caravan.
It doesn't rotate but I figured that if I only tow on road the trailer is always in line with the Landy and will be ok. So far after many years, not had a problem. Wouldn't tow trailer off road with it tho.
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blackwolf wrote:

You can bolt it directly to the cross-member but should fit a reinforcing plate if you do. See

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defen...Sw7aBVHobF


The reinforcing plate with eyes is on the outside of the crossmember. I also fitted a spreader plate on the back of the crossmember, idea stolen from member Retroanaconda on here.
Excellent idea! Cheers, Vincent
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Bumpymike



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I have a spare nato hitch in garage - you can have for £30 ...it came off a MOD white fleet transit so don't think its been used much.
Am in Warrington.
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Treebeard



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I have the illustrated parts list for the mark 2 (and mark 3) if you need it although couldn't see how to upload a file. I have a terrafirma 2" receiver fitted, which is like a spreader plate which ties back to the chassis rails. Rotating pintle bolted on top - rock solid.
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