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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Rev Counter for 300tdi
Hi,
I found a genuine land rover rev counter which is normally used for normal diesel engines.
Do you think is it applicable for 300 tdi engines?
cheers.
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
td5 ones said td5 in the middle of them earlier ones didnt. i didnt know LR did a rev counter (52mm) for the tdi or any diesel vehicle of that age.

plug it into the w connector on an Alt and see! Cheers

James
110 2010 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Yes you're right. It's not a genuine LR Product but what I mean, it was not adapted by the owner. So as you've mentioned, easiest way is to plug it into the alternator. But I need to buy it first, cause it is away from where I live. What I need to know is, if the rev counters used at normal diesel engines are interchangable with turbo engines? Without any tune up with an ossiloscope.
Cheers.
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Mo Murphy



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Yes providing the rev range on the dial is appropriate to your vehicle. All it does when connected to the alternator is count pulses as the alternator rotates, it doesn't matter if it's non turbo or turbo.
VDO make a nice reliable rev counter that should match well to your existing gauges.
HTH
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Thanks,
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nickhodgson



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South African Spec 300tdi vehicles had a rev counter. So there is a genuine part available. 1995 300tdi Defender 90 P/UP
2011 Puma Defender 130 D/C
2000 300tdi Defender 110 P/UP
2015 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE
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PaulMc



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 110 2.5 TD HT Arles Blue
There is a 'Tdi' version of the Td5 style rev counter, which is for the RoW spec TD5 Defender that was factory fitted with a 300Tdi engine - its part number is - YAE100800

This rev counter is driven by the 'W' terminal on the alternator, and matches the TD5 gauges perfectly, in style and illumination.

It's not cheap though Shocked

http://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.php/9512...i_defender




There are a couple of places that list it a bit cheaper than Brit-Car.

. Paul.
1989 Arles Blue 2.5TD 110 Hardtop
1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS'
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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Hi again,
Does someone have the code number of appropriate vdo rev counter?
I'm a bit confused between these two statements from forums.

VDO 333-156 0-4000 rpm limit.
The VDO 52mm 0-5000rpm rev counter will work on either the V8 or 300TDi from 1996.

I Believe 0-4000rpm is not good for 300TDI, but I don't the others code no.
Cheers.
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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Hi PaulMc,
It is so expensive Sad
Here I can buy complete dashboard from early '90's diesel engine for around 50£.
I'm not sure if it could work fine though.


PaulMc wrote:
There is a 'Tdi' version of the Td5 style rev counter, which is for the RoW spec TD5 Defender that was factory fitted with a 300Tdi engine - its part number is - YAE100800

.
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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Hi again,
I bought a brand new 0-6000rpm vdo (WWG 333 035 017x)
My alternator is probably magnetti marelli.
Could someone please confirm that the screw shown in red circle is the W terminal.


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Regarding the tachometer, it has three switches numbered as 1,2 and 3. Not like as 4,5,8 which refers to cylinder numbers. Default setting is #1 is on. Shall I keep it as it is?
Cheers and wish you all a happy new year.


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Post #485588 26th Dec 2015 5:49pm
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VeeTee



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Netherlands 
I'm not 100% sure, but I think you are right re the w-terminal.
Re the coding switches on the tachometer, I think #1 on is the (default) setting for a four-stroke petrol engine. For a diesel engine you have to set a code with the switches according to the number of impulses per revolution. I think #2 on, 1 & 3 off might work for you. See pages 3-10 and 3-11 :

http://www.mechanikadc.cz/wp-content/uploa...tional.pdf

And:

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/attach...1295261426

If you bought the tachometer brand new, didn't it come with a manual? Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold)
1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold)
1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold)
1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold)
2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold)
2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold)

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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Thanks for your reply VeeTee,
Unfortunately there was no instruction manual in the box.
But the document you've linked will be useful.
Cheers.
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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Attached two different alternators seems to have additional small black box connections that I don't have.
Does anyone knows why?




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VeeTee



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Netherlands 
Probably an interference supression capacitor. Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold)
1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold)
1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold)
1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold)
2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold)
2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold)

MySite
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schweps



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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Do you think it depends on the model (capacity) of the alternator and applied by the manufacturer or a modification?
Post #485650 26th Dec 2015 9:03pm
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