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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686  |
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9th Dec 2015 11:29pm |
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| raulruiz110 Member Since: 09 Dec 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 16  
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Hi Brian,
Thank you alot for your answer. No, the engine doesn't die when i press the clutch. The engine die when i press the brake or when i press the turn light (these is with the car on neutral). That's why is so strange because the brake doesn't have any link with the engine so the turn light. It happend to me again today i have a video when i press the turn light and the engine dies. Do you have any ideas what can be? Do you have whatsapp number, i will like to send you the videos, so you can have a clear view of what's happening, because i know its hard to understand because doesn't make any sense. Thanks a lot |
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10th Dec 2015 5:03am |
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| raulruiz110 Member Since: 09 Dec 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 16
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Any ideas of what can be????
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10th Dec 2015 5:05am |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3639  
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I expect Lorryman will come up with an answer as he is a wiz with these things.
However with my limited knowledge, could it be an fault on the lighting side hence why it happens when using the indicators and brake. I would start by checking all the earth connections around the vehicle (starting with the rear lighting) and all the relays and connections under the seats, the fuse box etc. There was also a service note for the main harness rubbing on the gearbox and chaffing the wires have a look in that area at the main looms. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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10th Dec 2015 6:23am |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1641 
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What actually is the problem? Sorry but I don't see it during the video?? YOLO... You Only Live Once...
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10th Dec 2015 8:43am |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2109  
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Looks like a shortcircuit problem... Eduardo
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10th Dec 2015 9:55am |
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| DAZ110 Member Since: 06 Dec 2007 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2035 
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When he puts his foot on the brake pedal the Defender engine stops....?
I don't know what the answer is, but Blackwolf is good with things like this. It's not related to that problem when a brake light bulb has gone and it makes the Defender do odd things is it? |
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10th Dec 2015 10:14am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17338 
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If I understand the OP correctly, the problem is that if he is stationary on tick-over and either presses the brake pedal or turns on either L or R indicators, the engine stops.
If so, this is an exceptionally wierd fault. There is an input to the ECU from the brake pedal switch, which is used (possibly amongst other things) to suppress the throttle pedal input after a few seconds if the brakes are applied whilst driving (try drying out the brakes after a river-crossing by the traditional left foot application to see what I mean - after a few seconds the engine drops to tickover). However the fact that the indicators also cause this problem makes it very strange. I'd be looking for an earth fault first, then maybe pulling supply fuses and seeing if it still happens (which might help differentiate between a short and an earth fault). Are there any stored DTCs that might give a clue? I suspect that this may be almost impossible to diagnose remotely via the internet, but my first thoughts would be to focus on the rear lighting circuits and the wiring round the ignition switch. Has the vehicle had any wiring modifications? |
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10th Dec 2015 11:45am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20294
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I reckon it's an earth fault too, or likely to be.
It can create all sorts of problems like when I had the rear earth strap loose and when indicating the whole dash would flash like mad, I mean everything. Indicate left and the brake lights would come on etc. It's likely the earth path taking the wrong route or possibly a live short but if it was live it's likely a fuse would blow unless it's very low voltage leak thus affecting ECU. Has it been in water at all? Anything got wet or a leak? Last edited by custom90 on 10th Dec 2015 4:19pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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10th Dec 2015 12:02pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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Have you installed LED directions indicators bulbs or brake bulbs? Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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10th Dec 2015 2:15pm |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060  
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Just some thoughts on where to look.....
First of all, I wonder how the indicator can be connected to the brake pedal. Operating the brake, closes the brake light circuit. Two places where the brake (light) circuit and the indicator circuit are close to each other, are in the wiring loom running back under the rear tub (to the rear lights) and at the loom for the tow hitch. Could the two functions be connecting up (shorting out) somehow? Do you have a tow hitch? Is the socket faulty, or wet inside? Do the indicators light up dimly or whatsoever, with the brakelights, or the brakelights with the indicators? Bad earth symtom, often occuring on trailer lights. Still haven´t got to why the engine would cut out, but maybe some sort of voltage spike or drop is enough to cause that. 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s, Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons |
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10th Dec 2015 2:58pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 
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Tow sockets can get mud and water in and corrode at the back which could short the brake and indicator together but I don't know if this would shut the engine off. Underneath the right hand rear wheel arch is a plug to unplug the tow socket so it would be easy to disconnect this to rule out the tow socket as the problem. Ray
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10th Dec 2015 4:30pm |
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| raulruiz110 Member Since: 09 Dec 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 16
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Hi Blackwolf,
Sorry but I’m not very familiar with the words you use, I’m kind of new with my landy, I will like to learn all the terms, but can you tell me what is ECU and DTCs? No, I don’t think it has any wiring modifications, but I have a winch, I don’t know if that could cause that. |
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10th Dec 2015 4:58pm |
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| raulruiz110 Member Since: 09 Dec 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 16
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Hi custom90steve,
No it haven’t been on water or wet, the only wet these baby gets it’s the carwash and rain. I took it to the car wash the day I film the video, but the same thing has happen to me before. |
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10th Dec 2015 4:59pm |
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