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chris d3



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Stornoway Grey
Anti roll bar
Does anyone know if there are better anti roll bars for 2011 110. Is it worth changing does it make a difference.
Post #478561 2nd Dec 2015 10:31pm
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jomara



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Scotland 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Hi Chris

Have a look here:

http://www.alivetuning.com/shop/defender-l...-puma-2-2/

Might be worth giving Gary Woods a call for some advice Thumbs Up

Sorry can't be more help
John 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto
2022 110 D250 XS Edition - Gone
2024 110 D250 X-Dynamic HSE
Post #478619 3rd Dec 2015 8:16am
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chris d3



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Cheers mate
Post #478697 3rd Dec 2015 12:35pm
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Bristol 90XS



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Have the Alive one on my 110, makes it a lot more stable and feels planted.

Had on my 90 too (although different) and felt the same. Improves handling but does impair axle articulation I'm told...
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jomara



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Hmm sounds good Bristol, another mod to add to my never ending list Confused 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto
2022 110 D250 XS Edition - Gone
2024 110 D250 X-Dynamic HSE
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epictrail



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ooh the Alive stuff is very overpriced. Have a look at Extreme 4x4 much better value.

http://www.extreme4x4.co.uk/acatalog/ANTI_ROLL_BAR_KITS.html
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epictrail



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Post #478919 3rd Dec 2015 10:34pm
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Likeomg



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epictrail wrote:
ooh the Alive stuff is very overpriced. Have a look at Extreme 4x4 much better value.

http://www.extreme4x4.co.uk/acatalog/ANTI_ROLL_BAR_KITS.html



alive 185 + vat

extreme 190 + vat?

I have a alive one and it really is very good...
Post #478943 3rd Dec 2015 11:57pm
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epictrail



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
As far as I know the Alive "Eibach" Defender Rear Anti Roll Bar kits are only 25mm.

You have a choice of 25.4 or 28mm from Extreme for the same price.
Post #478982 4th Dec 2015 9:03am
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Ryderoo



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England 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
I have front and rear sports anti roll bars on my 90.

In my opinion they have made a marked difference to the handling of my vehicle.

I feel hardly any roll when cornering.

Feels more planted if you know what I mean Cheers Simon

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you

1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone
2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone
2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone
2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24
2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24
2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle
Post #478988 4th Dec 2015 9:21am
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Alive Tuning



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The Alive anti roll bars are a result of many thousands of pounds of development and testing we did from 2010. The recipie works perfectly and is exactly where it needs to be for a comfortable yet compliant, sporty ride.

They may only be 25mm but the quality of the CNC formed tubular (yes, Tubular!) bar is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else for Defender, and it's lighter too!

I have been there and done that with so many variations of bar size. We even had an adjustable roll bar for fine tuning the near finished design at Bruntingthorpe proving ground.

Alive take product quality very seriously! We don't produce products to be cheap, as high quality costs. The chances are we make far less of a margin in our suspension components than of any other suspension product elsewhere. Another example is our Silicone Hoses that are made by Samco, which is yet another top quality brand we've worked with for years.

Trust our hard work to ensure a product that is in a league of its own.
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Supacat



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epictrail wrote:
As far as I know the Alive "Eibach" Defender Rear Anti Roll Bar kits are only 25mm.

You have a choice of 25.4 or 28mm from Extreme for the same price.


I don't think quoting the diameter of the bar used gives the full picture as to what the bar will achieve. Why not quote the actual stiffness?
Post #479123 4th Dec 2015 5:07pm
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Grenadier



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Alive Tuning wrote:
The Alive anti roll bars are a result of many thousands of pounds of development and testing we did from 2010. The recipie works perfectly and is exactly where it needs to be for a comfortable yet compliant, sporty ride.

They may only be 25mm but the quality of the CNC formed tubular (yes, Tubular!) bar is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else for Defender, and it's lighter too!

I have been there and done that with so many variations of bar size. We even had an adjustable roll bar for fine tuning the near finished design at Bruntingthorpe proving ground.

Alive take product quality very seriously! We don't produce products to be cheap, as high quality costs. The chances are we make far less of a margin in our suspension components than of any other suspension product elsewhere. Another example is our Silicone Hoses that are made by Samco, which is yet another top quality brand we've worked with for years.

Trust our hard work to ensure a product that is in a league of its own.


I have ARBs (F&R) on my 110SW. Not sure if they are factory fitted or AM, but they look basic and black. The roll compared with previous experiences (nearly all military spec) seems much more planted, but are we saying (anyone out there, not just Gary) that an Alive or Extreme ARB will be noticeably better than stock? I can understand fitting either of the aforementioned if you have non, but I am guessing spending £400+ and labour to swap mine, might be wasted based on the difference I would feel. Am I right or am I wrong. BTW, I have the featherlight touch and handling skills of Senna, if that helps.... Whistle Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
Post #479130 4th Dec 2015 5:26pm
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Ryderoo



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England 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
My 90 has an Alive Remap via Urban Truck, together with the sports ARB's gives a pretty decent driving experience.

I am positive, Grenadier, they are an improvement over the standard items.

Mine are racing red by the way Thumbs Up if this makes a difference Cheers Simon

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you

1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone
2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone
2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone
2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24
2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24
2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle
Post #479145 4th Dec 2015 6:15pm
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Supacat



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Grenadier wrote:
are we saying (anyone out there, not just Gary) that an Alive or Extreme ARB will be noticeably better than stock? I can understand fitting either of the aforementioned if you have non, but I am guessing spending £400+ and labour to swap mine, might be wasted based on the difference I would feel.


The lack of any real figures put forward by anyone to compare and contrast OEM vs aftermarket would suggest that you are indeed correct.
Post #479171 4th Dec 2015 7:37pm
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