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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505   
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They all develop this after a while, pretty bad really when they managed to get the TD5's right
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5th Dec 2010 10:36pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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My Puma's have been no worse or better than the TD5, Tdi's, Td's etc I've had before. They've all develop slack after a time. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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6th Dec 2010 1:53pm |
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| SteveS Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: Devon & Berkshire Posts: 388  
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My 09 plate has quite a bit of backlash at 9k miles - haven't worked out where it is yet or whether it is a lot of small bits of backlash adding up. Gut feel is that it is in the rear diff crown/pinion (new diff locker and drive flanges on back) or perhaps the transfer box - just guesses as I've not looked at where the play is just yet.
Hopefully will get it sorted under warranty......or it'll probably fail at 3 years +1 day I need to do some tests to narrow it down and see if there is a warranty claim - mind you with a 2" lift, lockers front and rear LR will be reluctant to pay out on anything that has been touched. Who could I entrust the work to to set up the tolerances/end floats etc if it were the diff pinion or transfer box and not covered under warranty? Tests, I'm thinking: Does it happen in Low Range Y/N; Does it happen with CDL on Y/N; Look underneath at the two prop shafts and see which one has the most rotation as the vehicle drive is taken up in reverse then forward etc Am I on the right track to narrow this down before I put to the dealers? |
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6th Dec 2010 5:57pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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Steve, Ashcroft Transmissions
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6th Dec 2010 5:58pm |
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| SteveS Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: Devon & Berkshire Posts: 388
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Mike - thanks - I thought that would be the name that came up
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6th Dec 2010 6:04pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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Dave Ashcroft is a great guy; very helpful, patient etc. I'm sure they'd sort you out.
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6th Dec 2010 6:05pm |
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| gtveloce65 Member Since: 10 Nov 2008 Location: West Sussex Posts: 107 
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Mine's gradually getting worse (22k miles at present) - very tricky to get a clunk-free change around town, and it seems to me that there's far more backlash in the rear diff than you'd expect from a newish vehicle (it's much worse than my old RR classic with 150k miles on the clock AND my 1953 80...poor manufacturing? Poor quality materials?? 1953 80
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8th Dec 2010 3:04pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903 
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Mines just gone over to 26k and it slowly seems to be getting worse. Aparantly it's 'normal' according to the dealer, but sometimes really does feel as though something is going to go bang soon...
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8th Dec 2010 4:34pm |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 538  
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My 2009 Puma 90 got the rear diff replaced under warranty at 8k, started to be noticeably noisy when the car had less then 5k on the clock. Been fine since then, it has a bit more tan 10k miles now.
Apparently, this is not unusual, yet it does not make it normal (!!). If it's the rear diff, I guess you should get it replaced under warranty. |
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8th Dec 2010 5:09pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903
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It had a new rear diff a few months back after it rattled itself senseless. It has actually gone bang in the past too, but that was a gearbox fault I think (can't remember off the top of my head).
3rd to 4th gear seems to be the worst though. Or 5th to 6th at about 35mph-ish. Although sometimes sitting in traffic putting it into first will clunk a fair bit and it'll roll forward ever so slightly... Land Rovers eh? Gotta love 'em!  |
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8th Dec 2010 5:57pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2412  
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The other likely source are the strained clutch coil springs. Puma 110" SW
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8th Dec 2010 9:10pm |
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| holmessato Member Since: 11 Mar 2010 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 27 
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I too have the same back lash at 25K miles on an 07 1110. I suspect the rear diff and have just spent £590 in renewing the warantee to cover an inevitable claim in the coming year. That and the 6th gear vibration under full throttle are realy spoiling my enjoyment of the Defender these days.
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13th Dec 2010 11:16pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903
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I'm going to drop into the dealers at some point tomorrow to book mine in as it's getting to the stage it did before it went bang before... I've not got any vibrations in 6th yet though.
It's things like this that give me doubts as to how long it's going to last out of warranty. I can't afford to have the clutch/gearbox/whatever else replaced every 6 months! |
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13th Dec 2010 11:52pm |
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