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Shax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
Posts: 391

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Puma gearbox problem

Hi all,

my 2010 Puma gearbox has just begun to lose syncro when changing into 2nd gear.. It snatches and clunks unless I change VERY SLOOOWLY! Has anyone else had this problem? Would changing the gearbox oil help, or do I need to bung something like Molyslip into the box?

Cheers in advance,
PAUL. ... ,-------,
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16th Nov 2010 10:34am

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

take it back to the dealer to sort 2.4 90 XS
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16th Nov 2010 10:37am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Paul,

Has this problem been sorted by the stealer? What was the issue?

30th Nov 2010 3:08pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey

Don't do nothing to it as it could jeopardise your warranty....do what Grockle said take it back to the dealer

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30th Nov 2010 5:57pm

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3707

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Take it to the dealer

130's have feeling's as well you know

30th Nov 2010 7:37pm

110SEB

Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

We had that after 6 months and 6,000 miles. Synchromech buttered and gearbox changed under warranty. If it's fading it's not going to get any better. Get it in and changed.

30th Nov 2010 8:14pm

NoDo$h

Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
Location: Buried in deer guts in Dorset
Posts: 972

We had the clutch done at 20,000 miles. Now, at 26,000 and out of warranty, the syncro is starting to play up. Already our one shot at goodwill with the EGR, had to replace the brake vacuum pump ourselves....

Why do I get the feeling that the time spent under the bonnets of various cars in my teens and early 20s is going to come in useful?

54 Freelander modded for mud
2008 D3 SE
2010 90 XS SW
1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner
2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone
2006 D3 SE - gone
2004 Freelander Sport - gay
1999 Disco V8 ES rotted to bits

30th Nov 2010 8:51pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

thanks for the info, much appreciated.

Yesterday while going home, on that long downhill I did the clutch in + shift gears again. This time I noticed that when I put it in 2nd , it seems as if 'something' is engaging, almost like when you are changing gears normally. This does not happen in any other gear, you can feel it's freewheeling all the way.

1st Dec 2010 5:06am

Shax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
Posts: 391

Naks wrote:
Paul,

Has this problem been sorted by the stealer? What was the issue?

I took it to Hunters in Guildford, and they say it's fine.. I am not so sure, the bloody thing seemed to know it was going into the dealers, and was OK on the short test drive the mechanic gave it.
As soon as I get 3 miles away, the problem comes back.
Def seems to be the same as NoDo$h and Naks problem. I'm gonna give it another week, and then it's back to Hunters..
Now the fekking thing is prone to kangarooing in 1st and 2nd gear.. EGR issue? It's only done 10,200 miles for fek sake..

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26FB458 / 27.275 SSB

1st Dec 2010 8:47am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

Shax wrote:
I took it to Hunters in Guildford, and they say it's fine

that's also LR's standard response over here, f%%% stealers!

What I do these days is take it to my indie mechanic, he drives it around and notes everything that is wrong. If it is something small that can be fixed he does it, else I then take it to LR and tell them what to replace under warranty.

Am also thinking to ask my indie to replace the gearbox oil with something more appropriate to our warmer climate, not sure what crap they put in at Solihull

1st Dec 2010 9:05am

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2415

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

You should not add Moly to the gearbox. Synchros need a bit of "friction" to work properly. There is a service call or whatever is called about replacing synchros. At this point I think the transmission is quite a piece of

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1st Dec 2010 10:36am

Shax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
Posts: 391

MK wrote:
You should not add Moly to the gearbox. Synchros need a bit of "friction" to work properly. There is a service call or whatever is called about replacing synchros. At this point I think the transmission is quite a piece of .

Hmm.. Not sure I agree with the "don't add Moly to the gearbox", used it on loads of gearboxes without problems before..

Anyhoo... I called Land Rover Cust Services earlier, explained the problem, and got the very helpful chap to see if there was any recalls that need to be done to fix the transmission.. The only recall specific item was a Q068, supposed to stop the sluggish performance. He also advised me to take the car back to ANY UK dealer to get the gearbox / transmission sorted.

I'll post more when I have spoken to the dealers again. ... ,-------,
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PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB

1st Dec 2010 1:52pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

Shax wrote:
Anyhoo... I called Land Rover Cust Services earlier, explained the problem, and got the very helpful chap to see if there was any recalls that need to be done to fix the transmission.. The only recall specific item was a Q068, supposed to stop the sluggish performance. He also advised me to take the car back to ANY UK dealer to get the gearbox / transmission sorted.

I'll post more when I have spoken to the dealers again.

Paul, do you have an update from the stealers?

Mine have given me the usual 'it's normal on a Defender' bs

26th Dec 2010 9:38pm

Shax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
Posts: 391

Naks wrote:
Shax wrote:
Anyhoo... I called Land Rover Cust Services earlier, explained the problem, and got the very helpful chap to see if there was any recalls that need to be done to fix the transmission.. The only recall specific item was a Q068, supposed to stop the sluggish performance. He also advised me to take the car back to ANY UK dealer to get the gearbox / transmission sorted.

I'll post more when I have spoken to the dealers again.

Paul, do you have an update from the stealers?

Mine have given me the usual 'it's normal on a Defender' bs

Quick update....

Hunters in Guildford gave me the usual BS from a main dealer, ie, it's perfectly normal, and maybe your driving style needs to change.. That comment really pi55ed me off... The Land Rover techy I spoke to says it's not normal.
I've spoken to another dealer, and as my Puma is going in for its first service, I'm gonna get the warranty stuff done in one big lump..
Now the bloody thing has started the dreaded lurching ar 2000 revs... makes me look like a bloody learner driver... Not good...
I'm seriously starting to get p155ed off with it.. Never have I had a car under warranty with so many glaring faults. Yeah, people will say its all part of having a Land Rover.. BS, it's bad manufacturing and quality control.

If it has faults in the first year, what's it going to be like 4 years down the line with no warranty left? ... ,-------,
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.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB

29th Dec 2010 7:42pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

Shax wrote:
If it has faults in the first year, what's it going to be like 4 years down the line with no warranty left?

Hopefully by then most of the landy will have been replaced part by part. I know I'm counting on this

29th Dec 2010 7:49pm

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