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| rick Member Since: 07 Mar 2008 Location: Perth Posts: 133   
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Hi,
I'm just wondering where you're all placing your recovery points on your Defenders and also, what kind of recovery points are you using? My basic concern is that sooner or later I'll get stuck in deep, soft sand. While I have a shovel and a pair of 'Max Trax' to get me out of most trouble spots, I know that I'm living on borrowed time. Strangely, our local 4WD specialists don't seem to have anything for Defenders... 2 chuckled that Land Rover's don't seem to get bogged and so no one's ever asked them before; 1 suggested I use the tie-down points (with a bow shackle); and finally my local Land Rover dealer had no idea what Defender owners were doing on that front (a blank stare) Does anyone have any ideas? I feel like I'm missing something. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Rick. 1998 RR HSE 2007 RRS TDV6 2008 Defender 110 2015 Discovery Sport |
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22nd Sep 2010 5:54am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610  
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There are a myriad of choices and applications, depends really on what you do and the likelihood of you getting stuck, Dixon Bate make good quality products maybe they have something suitable for your needs???
http://www.dixonbate.co.uk/Towing/tow_jaws.asp If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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22nd Sep 2010 6:10am |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248  
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Fitted a bumper with recovery points on the front and a 2" receiver on the rear which has a detachable recovery point. Shackles fit on both.
This is the front, no pictures of the back. 
This thread shows the the rear recovery point (Andrews's pictures) http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2922.html?highlight=receiver Bob |
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22nd Sep 2010 7:27am |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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As mentioned above
Get the best you can afford but make sure its rated. 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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22nd Sep 2010 10:15am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035 
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Dixon Bate on the rear using the NAS step tow - i did have a swivel eye mounted to the cross memeber
On the front I use the integral winch bumper recovery eyes. Mike |
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22nd Sep 2010 3:49pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8006  
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i use:
dixon bate combined tow ball and jaw or a southdown towing eye on both mounted to a Southdown Tow pack. Southdown front HD non winch bumper front with built in recovery eyes. or i use JATE rings, if you do buy JATE rings get ones that are wide enough to take a steering guard. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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22nd Sep 2010 4:59pm |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513 
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Could you point me at some wide ones? I bought some of the forged ones from Devon4x4 for the rear but I have a 2" receiver with brackets back to the chassis and the Jate rings won't go round them both 
The front is sorted (incorporated into the steering guard) but I'd quite like something on the back. Before someone states the obvious, I do have a shackle attachment for the 2" but I want something to attach a breakaway line for my Sankey. Cheers One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS + New Defender 110 First Edition |
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23rd Nov 2010 4:33pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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I have one of these http://www.qtservices.co.uk/parts/defender...ackle.html
Actually thats not going to help you (alan) because of your tow ball, but i ll leave it up anyway in case anyone else is interested. the rating is 8 tonnes from memory (assuming the back plate is used) |
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23rd Nov 2010 4:59pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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This is what happens if you use a lash down eye for recoveries
Click image to enlarge A couple of examples how NOT to use shackles Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge The WLL of a shackle is reduced by 50% when badly loaded In the middle photo someone obviously does not know that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link! Bottom photo, ignoring the strength of tow ball at 3.5 tonnes and should they be used in recoveries, why use the shackle?? Keep number of components to a minimum! Brendan Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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23rd Nov 2010 6:59pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6090 
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Depends on what front bumper you have, but if yours is a plain standard type, or you've got a basic 8274 or husky bumper, then you can fit the D rings:
which are very good, strong, and look nice and "classic" On the front of my 110, with an BRB bar (very similar to an ARB bar), i've fitted a pair of plain tow jaws, These exact ones: Click image to enlarge On the back end, depending on what towing system you use, you can fit a NATO hitch (strong) or one of the plain jaws as above, or a stronger 4 bolt dixon bate jaw, thus: Click image to enlarge As well as the JATE rings as mentioned above. Trouble with JATE rngs are that if you get bogged and sink up to your bumpers in poo, you've got to grovel around to find them (unless you attach a rope/cable prior to venturing out) |
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23rd Nov 2010 7:02pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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that towball / shackle combo is terrifying. tell me that's been put on there as a how not to do it, and not a shot of an actual recovery?
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23rd Nov 2010 7:12pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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ALL three photos are actual real life photos and are not staged photos! I have some 'interesting' photos of how NOT to do things. One of my 'favourite' shots is of a LR jacked up on a high lift jack, head under wheel arch, braying seven bells of hell out of hub assembly with a lump hammer. He REFUSED offer of a folding axle stand. That was the way they always did it! You can tell people what is good practise but I also think it is important to show bad practice and explain why it is bad practice Brendan |
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23rd Nov 2010 7:41pm |
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| KarlB Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Canberra Posts: 91 
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If you don't have a winch bumper or some very strong bullbar at the font with inbuilt recover points best option for the front is a pair of jate rings (forged ones are the best). If your vehicle is a D110, then you can easily fit a pair to the rear as well. The jate rings would replace the current lashing eyes and utilise the holes currently used by the lashing eye bolts. Fitting jate rings to the rear of a D90 is not as simple because of the fuel tank and the best way to fit them would require removing the tank first. The alternative for the rear is the use an Australian approved towbar with recovery receiver hitch. This is what I have opted for with my D90. Note that the towing equipment options illustrated on the Land Rover UK website for example, do not comply with the necessary Australian standards and cannot be legally used for towing on a public road (in Au). Also note that you should always use a bridle for any jate ring recover actions.
Cheers KarlB Canberra |
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25th Nov 2010 10:36am |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
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27th Dec 2010 9:57pm |
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