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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
^^ WRONG! Thumbs Up

No nylon brushes here, only very high end soft cloth machines, which get renewed very regularly. I can assure you that all the high end cars, and we have some of those, Laughing , would not like their paint being damaged by the car wash. Yes, even the Astons use it all the time.
Certain parts of Geneva can not be compared with across the border France for instance Rolling Eyes , where I wouldn't want to touch a automatic car wash with a barge pole. Here it is an absolutely different story, very high quality, but not cheap, probably expensive if compared with what a hand washer with a bucket and a brush would charge on the island. Wink
Every few years the wash streets in our area (2) get entirely replaced by new ones. What also helps, in Geneva you never see dirty cars, off-roading is illegal here, so you never see mud, and even the streets here get washed every few days. So, at the worst, cars going thru the soft cloth wash will just have some dust to wash off. Whistle
Anyone on here is welcome to come and look for those swirls you think of. I keep my truck pristine, if there would be swirls, would have quickly abandoned our local installations already years ago.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #454309 12th Sep 2015 12:29am
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Hazza



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United Kingdom 1990 Defender 110 Td5 HT Bronze Green
I feel this is an area of car ownership I know very little about. The 110 was roller painted and as such probably wouldn't benefit. But I always feel that my daily drive black BMW looks a bit dull. I'll invest in a clay mitt but could someone point me to a good beginners guide for polishing and waxing etc? 1990 Defender 110 200TDI Camper - now converted to Td5 power
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ginjez



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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Santorini Black
I get the feeling we will soon have a dedicated section in the forum for cleaning, detailing, valeting - call it what you will Whistle

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Barney12



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey
^^^^^^^Nice level of foam. Thumbs Up
What do you use out of interest, looks like it might have been applied with a pressure washer?
Post #454341 12th Sep 2015 8:49am
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Roy5695



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Indus Silver
Hazza wrote:
I feel this is an area of car ownership I know very little about. The 110 was roller painted and as such probably wouldn't benefit. But I always feel that my daily drive black BMW looks a bit dull. I'll invest in a clay mitt but could someone point me to a good beginners guide for polishing and waxing etc?


Get yourself on to cleanyourcar.co.uk

There's info there than you'll ever need.
Post #454343 12th Sep 2015 8:54am
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SailingTom



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Ill agree Eric, that when you mentioned it before your machines are a different quality to the sanders you get in the UK. Although Reckon if you had a go you could still make a huge difference to yours. I always find something nice about cleaning them yourself anyway as lets you keep on top of marks and bits that have fallen off from where they should be Thumbs Up
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ginjez



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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Santorini Black
Barney12 wrote:
^^^^^^^Nice level of foam. Thumbs Up
What do you use out of interest, looks like it might have been applied with a pressure washer?

I don't use a dedicated snow foam - I use a wash/wax liquid applied through a snow foam bottle attached to a Kaarcher hot water pressure washer.
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TooTall



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tonga Green
This is my guilty secret... I like my Landy polished! There I've said it now Whistle

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SergeantJav



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey
This is becoming more of a WA board... Waxers Anonymous and I am talking Landrovers people Rolling with laughter
In fairness I spent out on Dinitrol via Zag to protect the underneath of my new 110 but rather than pay out another £500 for a dealer paint protection I Googled car detailing...loads of useful guides out there recommending clay bar etc..
But I wasn't as fussed about carnauba wax shine but more on paint protection so went down the sealant route... Found http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/ch...ction.html and they recommended a product called CarLack 68 for a mid grey... £60 later for a complete kit and have to say well impressed ... That and washing with the two bucket method (never done that obvious step before) Nice and simple...stopped short of a clay bar this time but a nice wash then applied the Carlack Complete then topped with a few layers of CarLack LLS (Long Life Sealant) and it shines...well worth a few hours and am happy the paint now has some protection as well as the chassis Thumbs Up

Love seeing the water bead and run off... Apparently could last 6months but we'll see 👀 Proud to own 110XS TDCi SW..previously 90XS Td5 SW
Post #454393 12th Sep 2015 11:20am
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
I've never washed the body of my Defender.
Chassis and windscreen every now and then, but the rest doesn't get dirty. Even on muddy lanes in the wet.

My Hyundai on the other hand looks like a take it in a P&P on a regular basis when that rarely goes off road.
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MuddyChris300tdi



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United Kingdom 1995 Defender 130 300 Tdi HCPU Alpine White
I Will always tell people to never get anything applied to there body work by a car dealer. I've seen to many brand new cars at detailers needing correction work after the dealers have badly prepped it. If you haven't got the conference or time to do it properly then £300 would get you a full protection detail that lasts up to three years.
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MuddyChris300tdi



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United Kingdom 1995 Defender 130 300 Tdi HCPU Alpine White
And here's my snow foam shot.

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Post #454411 12th Sep 2015 12:21pm
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Hazza wrote:
I feel this is an area of car ownership I know very little about. The 110 was roller painted and as such probably wouldn't benefit. But I always feel that my daily drive black BMW looks a bit dull. I'll invest in a clay mitt but could someone point me to a good beginners guide for polishing and waxing etc?


Here you go. Lots of info

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic565.html

http://www.fullfatrr.com/wiki/Detailing 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

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LRmud



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Scotland 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Baltic Blue
Oops, I seem to have wandered into the wrong Forum.

FFS, claybar...... defender.......wtf?

Each to their very own indeed! I wonder what the original designer would be thinking now. Rolling with laughter --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1989 Defender 90
Toyota Aygo & Honda FR-V
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Venomator



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custom90steve wrote:
Meguiar's for me too, you can buy it as a kit. Thumbs Up

I'd be a little hesitant to use it on new paint, not because there is any prop elm but simply because the face the paint will be quite new and will be relatively soft.
I would tend to leave it at least 6 months , but that's just me.

Is it not the case that modern paint systems harden a lot quicker now though Steve (question rather than statement)... Question

I suppose what will concern me, especially with Winter arriving, will be getting a good paint protective coat on as soon as possible... Idea

Wouldn't it be better to Clay before protect in any event... Mr. Green
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