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Supacat



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If Range Rovers Are So Unreliable, Why Do People Still Buy
Seems to hit the nail on head...

http://jalopnik.com/if-range-rovers-are-so...1728727599

From a self interested point of view, I wish I liked Jags and lived in America - free servicing and 5 year warranties...

Maybe if the new Defender has a slow take up and JLR consider sweetening the deal, or at least offering parity with other models in other markets?
Post #452711 6th Sep 2015 9:27am
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We are on our third RR over the last seven years, never, ever had a problem with any of them!
Post #452845 6th Sep 2015 6:19pm
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Griff_L322



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Bought my parents 2007 RR TDv8 - it's was 5 years old with 60k
They had no issues but I've done 60 K in 3 years

Usually suspension lower arms well under engineered! £70 a pop last about 20k
EGR valves x2 one failed replaced both £600 (100k)
Alternator £500 (110k)
Both turbos £3500 (120k)


L322 is a great car, big, comfy, tdv8 has good power, great for towing the horse trailer, trips to Disney Paris in one drive.
I'm in it for a lot of money so hard to change it now, thinking about Disco 4 or even get a 110 USW & car for work

They are a great car and tick all the box's
Post #453002 7th Sep 2015 11:09am
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Who says Range Rovers are unreliable?

It's not my experience, and I'm now on my 4th in a row and 5th overall spanning over ten years. 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
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JR



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SNOBBERY?
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Supacat



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My experience of two from new was that they both had issues including alternator, ACE unit, differential, knocking suspension bushes (multiple), exterior trim falling off, turbo actuator arm...

JLR spent £543m on warranty in 2015 on sales of £21.8b so that's 2.48%.

There's no way JLR are going to make public the individual spend on model, so just one way of cutting that figure would be:

Averaged out on a RR starting at £74,950 that would equal a warranty cost of £1,861 per vehicle. If yours has cost nothing then just double the figure for your neighbour!

http://annualreport2015.jaguarlandrover.com/
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“SNOBBERY?”

Of course! Many (most?) owners of new RRs bought them solely to impress on non-RR owners that “I have a vehicle that costs more in depreciation than you earn”. In much the same way that many (most?) owners of new Defenders bought them solely to impress on non-Defender owners that “I have a vehicle that’s more butch than yours”.

Peter
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It's one of the most opulent vehicles to drive on the road

I doubt I will ever drive a Big Rolls Royce, but other than that don't think anything will beat the drive of a FFRR for that "Magic Carpet" ride feel Thumbs Up

G My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years.
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Supacat



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Birdy wrote:
“SNOBBERY?”

Of course! Many (most?) owners of new RRs bought them solely to impress on non-RR owners that “I have a vehicle that costs more in depreciation than you earn”. In much the same way that many (most?) owners of new Defenders bought them solely to impress on non-Defender owners that “I have a vehicle that’s more butch than yours”.

Peter


Is that the point JR was making?

I took it to mean a form of inverted snobbery, i.e. those who can't afford a RR slag it off for being unreliable.
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To be honest, I give a damn about non-Defender owners cars - I bought my Defender to be able to wave to other Defender drivers Rolling with laughter
Post #454102 11th Sep 2015 9:24am
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