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BruceT



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Puma 11MY differences
Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can get a list or if you can give me a list of differnces between the 11MY and the 10MY Defender.

So far I have found its the:
- Tyres
- Silver badge not gold
- Something about the traction control but not sure what
- The red reflectors on the back
- and that there is no carpets

Is there anything else?

Thank you
Post #45302 15th Nov 2010 3:39pm
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simonpuma90



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Re: Puma 11MY differences
[quote="BruceT"]Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can get a list or if you can give me a list of differnces between the 11MY and the 10MY Defender.

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Post #45303 15th Nov 2010 3:49pm
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BruceT



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Did I miss something?
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ajohnson



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Bruce one significant difference (in the UK) is that there's been some reclassification of the vehicle type (don't know the exact details - i'm sure someone else does), but it does mean the annual road fund licence for the '11MY is roughly half that of the '10MY.

We kept our previous TD5 for 7 years, so for us, this was a factor in waiting for a new '11MY rather than getting a nearly new '10MY.
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BigRuss



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Bruce what spec are you looking at?

my XS USW has carpet, green & gold badge, red reflectors at the back (so did my 2007MY Td5 DC) & continental tyres Russell
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this reclassification - can it be backdated or is it a total waste of time trying?
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Re: Puma 11MY differences
BruceT wrote:
Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can get a list or if you can give me a list of differnces between the 11MY and the 10MY Defender.

So far I have found its the:
- Tyres
- Silver badge not gold
- Something about the traction control but not sure what ABS (and TC) Bosch (no more Wabco)
- The red reflectors on the back any pics????
- and that there is no carpets

Is there anything else?

Thank you
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BigRuss



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BigMike wrote:
this reclassification - can it be backdated or is it a total waste of time trying?


It's a clear cut.

2011MY on = new tax £250
pre 2011MY = old tax £450

no if's no but's and no exeptions! Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #45331 15th Nov 2010 7:28pm
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DefenderOfTheEarth



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It would take a long time to recoup that tax difference if you bought a new one rather than keeping an older model!

The RFL is painful though - not enough to put us off. Still think it's funny that our nr 300bhp, 428lbs-ft BM is half the cost in RFL a year!!

Not sure about LR but quite a few brands have done some rather savage cost cutting recently - a MY011 3 Series for example has cheaper materials, a worse stereo and other bits than a MY010, which is worse than a MY009. Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.
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jst



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i think the list you have is it pretty much although i didnt know about the reflectors or the carpet bit. the 11MY ones i have seen had carpet and same reflectors. they did have the correct silver badge though.

RLF reclassification is not retrospective. you wont be able to get a vehicle reclassified easily. Cheers

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ok .... I'm a bit slow here but ..
I know what XS, CSW, SWB LWB, and most of the older TLA's mean but as yet not sure of MY ... Question .
anyone care to enlightne me? Embarassed
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MY stands for Model Year Peter
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Re: Puma 11MY differences
BruceT wrote:
Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can get a list or if you can give me a list of differences between the 11MY and the 10MY Defender.

So far I have found its the:
- Tyres - Continental Cross Contact


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- Silver badge not gold


Click image to enlarge

- Something about the traction control but not sure what - Four wheel independent instead of axle pair
- The red reflectors on the back - Not on the AU spec SW
- and that there is no carpets - AU does not get these anyway


Is there anything else?

Bosch ABS replaces Wabco

Not 100% sure on this but I believe the rear suspension was uprated in relation to the commercial reclassification and revised loadings

Thank you
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wyvern



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MrFlips wrote:
MY stands for Model Year


Cheers Peter
Thought I'd missed a new classification there for a while !
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My MY11 Utility Wagon was £200 road tax, I think LR wants to reclassify all defender models so they don't have to replace the defender in 2012, with the new regs for cars.
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