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Iggle piggle



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Defender Anti-stall
Impressive stuff, sorry if it's been posted before

http://www.theworldofmachines.com/land_rov...truck.html
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Stickleback



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Well I'd not seen it before - impressive stuff, particularly part 3.. Would have been harder with RHD though unless he had very long arms Very Happy
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Supacat



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Actually not seen that before. Thumbs Up

What conditions have to exist to stall the engine then? I'll admit to having done it a couple of times.
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Supacat



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Stickleback wrote:
Well I'd not seen it before - impressive stuff, particularly part 3.. Would have been harder with RHD though unless he had very long arms Very Happy


Interesting that they did it on a gravelled surface so the wheels could spin relatively easily. What would have happened on tarmac or a similar grippy surface? Would the system give up under an overload command or continue until something went bang?
Post #452785 6th Sep 2015 1:56pm
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Johnikgriff



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Interesting that they did it on a gravelled surface so the wheels could spin relatively easily. What would have happened on tarmac or a similar grippy surface? Would the system give up under an overload command or continue until something went bang?


stall I would guess
Post #452801 6th Sep 2015 4:41pm
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lohr500



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Was anti-stall around for the 07MY? I'm sure the chap on the LR driving experience I went on said it was introduced at the same time as the move to 2.2 Puma. I guess he could have been wrong.
Post #452813 6th Sep 2015 5:13pm
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Johnikgriff



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I wouldn't believe a word those LRE folk say 😉

Seriously though, anti-stall was avalible on TD5, but a more basic system.

All Puma's have anti stall.
Post #452828 6th Sep 2015 5:41pm
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RobKeay



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Td5 did have anti stall but in 07 it got better.

To be fair to the system it's in low box and puma engined defenders are fantastic in low box. It just keeps the wheels moving with no throttle input.

I went to the launch at eastner probably one of the best days I've ever had. Being free it was cheaper than getting married.
Post #452836 6th Sep 2015 6:02pm
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RoddyK05



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If it was available on TD5, how can I tell it its fitted on mine, or is it standard? I've never stalled it before, but I've only had it for a few months.
Post #452837 6th Sep 2015 6:06pm
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Disco_Mikey



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As above, all Pumas have anti-stall.

A better test is to put it in 1st low, crawl along with no throttle, and gradually apply the brakes. Then a little harder. And then harder still Whistle

I can have 2 feet on the pedal, pushing against the seat/bulkhead, and it just keeps dragging itself along, even on tarmac. A truly impressive system Bow down

In the video above, if it had more traction, I expect it would have stalled, broke something, or just sat there shredding its tyres on the road surface Laughing
Post #452838 6th Sep 2015 6:08pm
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lohr500



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Thanks for the clarification everyone.
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RobKeay



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Shred it's tyres or broke a half shaft.
Post #452856 6th Sep 2015 6:40pm
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Nevillerover



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The anti stall is useful. I pull away without using the throttle and then press it once moving. This also works with the caravan on and is a nice smooth technique once mastered. You also then don't need to use the handbrake on hill starts, even with a big van on the back.
Post #452883 6th Sep 2015 7:34pm
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CDN38



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Same conversation going on over here...

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39896.html
Post #452885 6th Sep 2015 7:39pm
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pumaxs



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My Puma was bought from Matford in 2012 & I was given the usual half day LRE voucher when I picked it up.
I booked a visit to Eastnor & chose a 110 SW for direct comparison with my own.
I'm pretty sure it was a '12 plate vehicle, as I think it was the first year that they did away with carpets.
The instructor's favourite trick of the day was to demonstrate pulling away on hill starts with the brakes still applied.
i.e. Stop half way up a hill, and hold vehicle on the foot brake, while still in gear, with the engine running.
Keeping your foot hard on the brake pedal, whilst releasing the clutch pedal, enabled you to pull away with no risk of rolling backwards.
Apparently, modifications to the abs system, in combination with the anti-stall & traction control systems, had made that feature possible for the first time.
The explanation was that on the old system, the abs sensors on the front axle talked to one another, and sensors on rear axle did the same, but front & rear axles didn't talk to one another.
However, on the new system, the sensors talked to one another across both axles, if that makes sense?
He told me that this feature was installed from 2011 onwards, but I've no way of knowing for sure.
You will have to give it a try to find out for yourself.
The brakes groan like hell, but the vehicle will pull away, and will not roll back or stall.
Obviously, you should release the foot brake once you are safely on the move.
Apologies if this is already common knowledge and I've just wasted several minutes of your life! '57 Defender 110 XS Station Wagon 2.4tdci
Post #452956 7th Sep 2015 8:17am
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