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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
I'll try and answer, not 100% sure of the facts but it was as explained to me.... The EGR Valve is there primarily to reduce Nitrous Oxide emissions...Certain countries the USA in particular measure Nitrous Oxide emissions as part of their MOT equivalent test. Fail it and you need to get your emissions down to an acceptable limit to get your ticket. Nitrous Oxide is not currently measured as an emission in the UK allthough other gases are. Hence the desire to blank off the EGR Valve instead of feeding back harmful gases back into the engine for reburning. There is an explanation somewhere I'll see if I can find it: Have copied it from the thread instead, Amos ear tiz everything you may like to know: If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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28th Oct 2010 6:57am |
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BIGFOG Member Since: 12 Sep 2010 Location: Edenbridge Posts: 537 |
Simple really??!!
Bring on the German Bloke! |
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29th Oct 2010 9:43pm |
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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
From another thread in answer to the "What about the MIL light illuminating?" His answer short and sweet!....
Don't think so!!!! Each to their own, from a personal perspective and for anyone with any type of reprogrammed ECUs I would much rather have an engineering solution to the EGR Valve blanking than a software patch that may be incompatable with the remap. One thing is for sure whoever comes up with a solution to suit all would undoubtedly 'coin it in!' As for the German Bloke he's not been heard of since September 1st and posted only 5 times in total...Doubt if we'll hear much considering the solution was due about now (end of year). If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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30th Oct 2010 7:11am |
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Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2625 |
+1 Since the sensor looks for exhaust gases in the EGR, would moving the sensor to the exhaust manifold not work? |
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30th Oct 2010 1:11pm |
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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
There's somebody on the site I think apart from 'The German Bloke' working purely on an engineering version! Obviously takes alot of time and development especially if you can't devote your full time to it! Sure someone will come up trumps after all the issue has been around about EGR Valve blanking for quite some time on the Puma now! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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30th Oct 2010 3:47pm |
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BIGFOG Member Since: 12 Sep 2010 Location: Edenbridge Posts: 537 |
Thanks for reminding me of the patch issue K9F, that would indeed be a concern for me as well, and like you say, the silence has been a little deafening from our German friend.
On another front, I drove just short of 1000 miles this week and the car is running better than ever, its almost like something unblocked itself halfway through and suddenly the engine is breathing freely. I'm half wondering if he EGR managed to shake off a load of coke and seat itself properly shut at higher revs... Still on 14mm plate having reset the MIL light about 1500 miles ago |
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31st Oct 2010 9:16pm |
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Beefmaster Member Since: 08 Nov 2010 Location: Middelburg Mpu Posts: 19 |
Hi guys, I'm no super technical genius, and by no means understand fully how the EGR system works. But from what I can gather is that the sensor needs to detect a certain amount of airflow, otherwise it shows the MIL. Now if this is the case, wouldn't it work if we blank it off altogether, and then put in a split on the air intake pipe and move the sensor to there? It will this way still pick up an airflow, albeit clean air, but mightn't this method solve the MIL problem when blanking the EGR off altogether?? Lemme try and draw this with slashes and underscores real quick... :
______________ ______/ ______X_____ \_______________ ______ |___________/ ________________ \______________/ I gathered from some reading on this forum that Pete from BAS is the guy who knows this stuff? Let me know cos when I saw the pics of how it clogs up I realised that this system has to go!! Hoping for some replies |
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8th Nov 2010 5:21pm |
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Beefmaster Member Since: 08 Nov 2010 Location: Middelburg Mpu Posts: 19 |
No that drawing came out all wrong... But anyway, basically blank off the EGR altogether, install a section of parallel hose teed into the intake hose in two places, and install the sensor in the smaller of the two parallel hoses...?? Hope this makes sense
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8th Nov 2010 5:48pm |
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MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2400 |
I suppose you are right. I had something like that in mind. Being neither a speciallist I do not kno why any of the performance people has not come up with a kit yet. Puma 110" SW
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8th Nov 2010 5:55pm |
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Beefmaster Member Since: 08 Nov 2010 Location: Middelburg Mpu Posts: 19 |
Maybe someone can take airflow readings from the EGR and calculate required hose sizes for the split?? I'm keen to give this a bash... If I understood the workings correctly from the start!!
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8th Nov 2010 6:12pm |
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V2NGT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Petworth Posts: 4 |
Hi All ,
I have just added an EGR blanking plate to my Puma , Size used was 12 mm so far without issues . job is a little fiddly due to access even though there are only 3 bolts to remove/replace . Removing the bonnet helps as does using a tapered nail punch to realign the holes . What wasn't clear to me was the difference a blanking plate would make, it truly is a new engine far quieter and less "agricultural" than before , if any of you are suffering a dead spot/lag when first applying throttle then this will remove virtually all of the hesitant response . EGR plate was from Bell Auto Services and arrived the next day in a range of sizes , Fantastic Puma 2009 Bell Remap Allisport Intercooler ITG Air Filter Tornado Full Exhaust Silicon Intercooler Pipes Bilstein Dampers |
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13th Nov 2010 11:16am |
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BIGFOG Member Since: 12 Sep 2010 Location: Edenbridge Posts: 537 |
Hi V2NGT, Your spec, short of the dampers is identical to mine albeit on a 110. I have just got the Tornado exhaust on in the last couple of days. Is yours including a de-cat or cat back? The reason I ask is that Andy of Allisport reported problems with his car after fitting the de-cat and has since removed it and put the original cat back to cure the issue. Would be interested to hear your side. |
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13th Nov 2010 11:27am |
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V2NGT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Petworth Posts: 4 |
Hi BIGFOG,
Tornado is manifold back so yes it is de-cat and I haven't noticed any issues but I had the exhaust changed with 25 miles on the clock so don't really have anything to compare against . Exhaust is also straight through with only a tiny rear silencer but I am thinking of adding a centre box which is available from twisted performance as it's really too noisy for me . Puma 2009 Bell Remap Allisport Intercooler ITG Air Filter Tornado Full Exhaust Silicon Intercooler Pipes Bilstein Dampers |
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13th Nov 2010 11:48am |
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BIGFOG Member Since: 12 Sep 2010 Location: Edenbridge Posts: 537 |
Interesting....
My exhaust is cat back, has a tiny centre box, more of a swolen bit of pipe rather than a true silencer, but has no back box at all, but is a side exit. At low throttle or cruising at motorway speeds, noise is acceptable, but pretty damn loud when under full load, more for bystanders than me I understand. I can only imagine that the de-cat would make things louder still. Currently I am very happy with it. Cheers for the feedback and welcome to the forum! |
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13th Nov 2010 11:58am |
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