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Wheel carrier or better hinges?
To take the weight of an alloy spare wheel and tyre is it now a viable option to upgrade the standard rear door hinges to something better like Optimill or is a spare wheel carrier the only way this should be done?

Lots of people presumably still carry the spare on the rear door without a wheel carrier... 2016 D4 HSE

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Post #445763 13th Aug 2015 11:55am
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Even many new Defenders I have noticed over the years come with a slight dent in the rear right hand quater panel where the standard wheel has either impinged on the rear light or the panel itself and pushed the panel in. Ultimately dependant on need/desire a wheel carrier IMHO is the only proven way of retaining the spare and transferring the load to the rear crossmember. They can be costly though. I too have aftermarket hinges but I don't think any of them profess to be load bearing upgrades. Due to the profound weight of my steel wheels and tyres I fitted a swing away as soon as I saw and procured the one I was after. A rear door strut (see link) I would say is also 'up there' as one of my best buys (speak to Brendan).


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I'm just looking into this myself. Although I'm thinking I might put my spare on the roof rack if I can find a decent way of covering up the carrier holes in the back door. The spawn of AndrewS

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There is NO one simple answer!


A lot depend on where and how you drive your vehicle.

A couple of thousand miles a year pottering around on good surfaced roads then no you do not need either.

( Yesterday I saw a belter of a 110 TD5 on an 05 plate which had covered 6,000 miles from new, stored in a garage under a sheet etc)

Planning on doing a few thousand miles on corrugated roads then that is a definite YES.


Also depends on condition of rear door now.

So have a good look at the inside of the door, check for play in the hinges, refurbishment kits are available quite cheaply. Think how you are likely to be using your Defender then decide what is best for you. Wheel carriers go from about £150 to over a grand.



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I've been through the same thought process and in the end went for the Nakatanenga from Brendan:

http://www.4x4overlander.com/product/nakat...-coated-2/

What swung it for me (no pun intended Rolling with laughter ) was with the 18" Sawtooth the rear door handle was difficult to access as the wheel was in the way. The carrier shifts the wheel over to the right solving the problem. It is though frighteningly expensive but incredibly solidly made and well engineered.

As K9F says the Naka... rear door strut is a great addition. Quick and easy to install.

My only negative is that I now really fancy a NAS step but they won't fit with the Naka... carrier Sad
EDIT: See Brendan's post below. I've absolutely no idea what I'm talking about Whistle


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Post #445802 13th Aug 2015 2:12pm
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Tut tut Barney, where is the slapped bottom emoticons when you need it? Razz


The Nakatanenga wheel carrier will fit with the genuine NAS step. You may or may not have to trim a little bit of the rubber tread plate.

For non genuine ones it is harder to say. If they are an exact copy no problem (apart from a little bit of rubber trimming)

Here you go look here for photos of Nagatanenga wheel carrier and NAS step.


We have sold a lot to Defender 2 forum members and typical comments made are things like well made, well engineered, easy to fit etc.




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Well Censored me sideways! (Actually on seconds thoughts, don't Mr. Green )
I swear I had read on this very forum that they didn't fit.

Right off to find a genuine NAS step supplier Thumbs Up
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Thanks for the replies.

I don't think I can stretch to a Naka one, maybe a Mantec one at best. I won't be doing many miles but I will go soft roading on the shoot etc and would prefer a carrier.

It will have to wait for a few other essentials first though. 2016 D4 HSE

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i want one too

but I cant see the money in the NAKA ones, if I had one I could get a mate to make me one in stainless


prob end up getting a mantec I guess
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