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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637   
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Hi folks,
I knows it a defender and I know they leak, so I'm ok with that as a general point. However i have a load of water in the footwells, both sides, now this isn't new as it appears to be coming from the bulkhead as the bulkhead seam seems to be badly rusted, above the foot boxes on both sides. I'm wondering if there is a known culprit that causes the leak in this area, is it the bulkhead itself, or is it the seal between the bulkheads. i note the windscreen seal is pretty much shot, but the volume of water that is entering the car would suggest that its not the windscreen seal itself. Any advice gratefully received. Cheers Andy |
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21st Jun 2015 2:38pm |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279  
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You could check the roof panel. Mine was cracked on both sides.
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21st Jun 2015 4:46pm |
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| consumerize Member Since: 27 May 2014 Location: Berkshire Posts: 121  
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The fake window hinges were to blame on mine. Tell tale is the bolts are rusty on the inside. Take them off our sealant like sykaflex on underside and re-bolt into place.
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21st Jun 2015 7:10pm |
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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637
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Thanks folks,
What about the bulkhead window screen seal, are they prone to leaking? Was thinking about a heated windscreen as well, so might be my opportunity to upgrade 
Cheers |
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21st Jun 2015 7:55pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2102 
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^^^^all of the above on mine.
Screen rubber, roof where it joins gutter, faux hinges and around pedal box. All near as damn it sorted now with a bit of patience and some rtv sealant. Until next time....... |
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21st Jun 2015 8:21pm |
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| RustyM Member Since: 28 Oct 2013 Location: Africa/The Med Posts: 222  
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Normally the bulkhead to screen frame seal is to blame, the screen surround rubber also over time adds to the leak. I would definitely upgrade your screen at the same time.
 90 & Wolf
110 XS Previously owned SI SII SIIa SIII & Light weight (air portable) |
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21st Jun 2015 8:26pm |
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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435 
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Have you had a look behind the carpets? There's a large hole for wiring etc - it could be that simple.
I had damp carpets on one side, not sure why, I changed the bottom door seals to the new type and it's cured it. I also changed the seals around the flip up vents, they don't leak at all now. Make sure the channel is clear underneath the front widescreen, water can sit in it if it can't escape, mine was blocked at both ends with bits of leaves/dust. Check the simple but daft things first! Best of luck with it |
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21st Jun 2015 8:41pm |
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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637
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What's the easiest way to fix this, massive job or just a pain (bulkhead seal).
Cheers |
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21st Jun 2015 8:46pm |
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| Dpgdefenders Member Since: 11 Nov 2014 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 9 |
Also check the door seals. Get in it and have someone wave a hose pipe around suspect areas.
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24th Jun 2015 10:09pm |
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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637
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Did just that.
Looks like the windscreen blocks are the main culprit, water is peeing in! Almost like there is no seal in place! Tightened up the bolts, no change. So sounds like I need to remove the blocks and put some instant gasket in place. Also looks like the rubber / sponge windscreen gasket does not do much sealing! I guess I could run some black silicone sealant along the seal to try and arrest the worst of it. Cheers Andy |
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28th Jun 2015 3:54am |
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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435
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Silkoseal is much better than silicone sealant, it's made as a body part sealant for the automotive industry, it lasts much longer, stays slightly flexible and you can paint over it. At least you're making progress
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28th Jun 2015 5:52am |
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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637
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Thanks,
Any idea where to get this Silkoseal? Does it come in different colours, i.e. black? I have a Bonatti Grey Landy and black and grey works well
Cheers Andy |
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28th Jun 2015 6:12am |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2102
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I wouldn't mind finding more about Silkoseal.
I recall seeing it in used in construction albeit spelled with a 'c' not a 'k' and I know they use something of that name in the printing industry. I wonder if we are talking about the same thing. Where do you source yours Lambley? I also have a leaking Lotus and RTV automotive silicone seems to do the trick whether it be oil or water! Always interested in finding out if there's something better out there. Real experience is far better than product literature! Cheers, Will |
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28th Jun 2015 7:13am |
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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435
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I just got some off eBay but I think some motor factors or a local body shop will have some. It's also known as Tiger Seal, definitely comes in black but also grey if you want to match. I used it to seal the panel sides of my 90 when the sponge failed. Get some wet wipes to get a nice even seal, it sticks to anything dry and it's a sod to get off, I used it in a sealant gun, sets in a few hours.
Like this stuff.... http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&...ID=EBAY-GB |
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28th Jun 2015 7:22am |
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