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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558  
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personally I wouldn't want a 2.2
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25th May 2015 12:55pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5101  
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Keep the one you have and spend the money on a refurb if needed and some new mods. At 30.000 miles its just run in! For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..
http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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25th May 2015 1:07pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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^^^
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25th May 2015 1:14pm |
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| mrandmrsh Member Since: 31 May 2010 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 692  
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I love my 2.2 and as I've said before prefer it to the 2.4 I borrowed but the difference is negligible and the 2.2 does have the ePF other have had issues with.
So there, two people two different views 
Just to come back to the question though would I swap if I were you? No I don't think I would. 30k miles is nothing and the cost of the change to a new one would buy a lot of upgrades to the one you have. It's got to be £10k to swap and get basically the same car. Start another thread "how would you spend £10k improving a 30k miles Defender" and see which looks more fun 
That said I just swapped but that was because I do loads of miles and wanted one fairly near to the end of production so when I keep it it will have less miles on it. If I did low miles and had one I was happy with I would enhance it. HTH C 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs) 2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ... 1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold 2012 USW XS 2.2 "FUU" now gone.... |
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25th May 2015 1:20pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804  
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Bunnyman,
I have a 2.2 and am very happy with it, but as others have said I think it would be throwing money away with a negligible difference between the two. As such, keep the 2.4 and give me the 10k to continue my upgrades (I need 15k to finish my list if you're feeling generous...). Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey Last edited by Grenadier on 25th May 2015 3:29pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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25th May 2015 1:46pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669  
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10k?
If you were to spend it on: - a mild tune - HD your drivetrain (not really needed, just to make a point) - transparent wrap the entire vehicle - add a glove box - upgrade the lighting - upgrade the interior - soundproofing it (which is what I would never spend money on) - upgrade the sound system - get some rustproofing You'll have a better car the new one will ever be and still have money to spare... |
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25th May 2015 3:27pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5101
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^^^^^
Add to that list some 'Landy Glass' (using that brand name might get the JLR police knocking at my door I know  ) but I think its the best mod you can have
http://www.vehicleglazingspecialists.com/ For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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25th May 2015 4:07pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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people love the trucks they drive, no one will say my brand new 2.2 is not as good as my previous 2.4, same for td5, then you have the 200/300 brigade (no ecus, I can fix it with a hammer)
i guess hard facts are what you need; 2.4's used to suffer with clutches, rear window elements, vacuume pump gasket failure not heard anything bad about the 2.2s, they are quieter, but have the dpf stuff that would worry me, but i've not heard of any issues, i have a dpf in my BMW and in 100k its been perfect, this technology is getting more and more common and refined. |
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25th May 2015 4:12pm |
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| tatra805 Member Since: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Dolany Posts: 436  
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bpman, hereby i confirm
2x 2.2 (130 and 90) both less than 15k km and both had 2x oil change due to DPF regen fuel contamination. (simply said oil overfill warning) both used for town to town trips and "farm" work, as intended by the constructor 
2.4 over 2.2 for me everyday, buts that's just an opinion |
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26th May 2015 8:27am |
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| Jimbob Member Since: 17 Mar 2011 Location: Gower Posts: 68 
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I've had both a 2.4 and now a 15 plate 2.2 and I'd say there was very little difference in them whatsoever, The only difference I can seem to recall is I'm sure my 2.4 used to pull from bottom end a little better than my 2.2 does now (used to be able to leave it in 4th coming up hill to my house whereas the 2.2 does it just not as well) but that said its only covered 1100 miles so still very tight and not bedded in yet. I'd go with the advice given above, if your happy with your current vehicle (I.e don't fancy a colour change or spec change etc) I'd stick with what you got and spend some money upgrading it! I only changed from my 2.4 cos I foolishly sold it to buy a D3! Worst thing I ever did and constantly regret it! 2009 Defender County Hard Top (gone 😞)
1990 200tdi defender off roader 2015 Defender XS Hard Top (awaiting delivery 😄) |
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26th May 2015 10:07am |
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| bunnyman Member Since: 29 May 2013 Location: herts Posts: 119 
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HI All
Thank you all for taking time out and replying ,think i will be sticking with the 2.4 . thanks again bunny |
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26th May 2015 4:39pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 
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Very simply, I change the engine oil in my 2.4 about every 3000km. At which point in time the oil still is very transparant, and the color something like the original golden with a touch of light grey added to it.... And I have about 67k km on the clock now. I have a friend here with a well looked after 2 years old 2.2, and with more or less the same 3000 km or less after an oil change, his engine oil will be pitch black. Tells me something with a young fresh engine. Further, I remain a great believer of the phrase there is no replacement for displacement. I also do not like this DPF idea and the diesel mixing with the engine oil, but must admit I do not know of anybody who had the thing really break down on him. Guess if you care about longevity of a 2.2, the message is to change the oil much much more frequently than what LR are saying you should do. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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26th May 2015 5:07pm |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789 
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Why do cars have DPF's ? is it to remove anything harmful? do your children or grand children walk to school along side traffic?
should we ignore pollution because we want our engines to be less complicated and last longer. Well i don't know the answers but sometimes i wonder if fighting against anti pollution measures is not a little short sighted or i'm alright jack bbollockss to everyone else Original Member Pie n Pea Club. 110 HCPU Tipper |
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26th May 2015 10:00pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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^^Why do cars have DPF's ?
I don't really know, to turn small particles into even smaller particles I guess? You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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27th May 2015 4:24am |
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