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munch90



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Supacat wrote:
Anyone got the spec on the bolts they look like M8 with a flanged head but before I take one off it would be good to know the length.

I was just going to get them replaced with A4 stainless ones before applying any corrosion block.


m10 would have 13mm flanged head , if they were m8 they would have 10mm head


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Paul55



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According to microcat its a M8 flanged bolt x100mm, FB108206, do a double check on microcat, section I, fuel and emission systems Thumbs Up Cogito ergo sum
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Supacat



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Thanks chaps Thumbs Up
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Jonno



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andydef90 wrote:
hi what fuel have you been using would not expect that amount in a filter with such low mileage


The first 12 months or so was mainly Shell after that Morrisons,Tesco and Asda.

The amount of water in the filter definitely reduced once moving onto supermarket fuel. I presume they store the fuel in tanks only a few years old the branded fuel was from long established service stations.

Jonno
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munch90



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Have heard about a few garages having problems with water in fuel due to flooding and some flood water got in the underground tanks

Your always get a bit of water in fuel due to condensation, more so if its a short journey use as the fuel heats up and returned to tank the tank warms up then cools when parked up drawing damp air in

there are additive you can get to get rid of small build ups of water like wynns dry fuel
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Supacat



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Jonno wrote:
Supacat wrote:
Just taking a loook around the vehicle before it goes in for a service and found these bolts to be the most rusted on the whole vehicle - have I got a set of poorly finished bolts or are they all like this as a result of being encased?


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That looks like accelerated corrosion due to road salt to me. Its nothing serious and will happen to any steel in the presence of salt. As others have said slap some Dinitrol on it and it it'll be fine.

Jonno


Got to take a closer look at these today. They are M8 x 100mm.

Pulled the left hand one out and was please to see it looked nearly perfect other than the exposed head:

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However, the right hand bolt was a different matter:

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Hard to believe they are both just over 2 years old Shocked

The 2nd bolt looks like it has been lying in water, almost half covered along it's entire length. If you look at the slotted holes they go into and the fact that LR fit a 20mm penny washer which is a shorter diameter than the slot, then it's easy to see that water will make it's way in and have no way to drain:

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I've cleaned both bolts up and coated them in coppaslip to see if they will last. I've also thrown the original washers away and replaced with some stainless 24mm ones. These cover the full diameter of the slots, so hopefully will keep any water out in future:

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Might be worth checking yours - especially if you can see a gap between the edge of the washer and the slot.
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munch90



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one of the first jobs on mine was I covered in the top of the filter cover to stop the mud etc getting to top of filter
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Supacat



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How did you do that?
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munch90



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welded a bit on top of the cover that you take off to get at filter , so it now covers the top of filter housing

seemed bad design to me to allow mud etc in on top of filter housing
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You got a photo or two of that you could share?
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will try, but wont be for a couple of days Thumbs Up
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Skippy Blue



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Changing the fuel filter..

My 2.2 TDCi is just out of warranty so rather than continuing with expensive servicing from franchised dealers, this was my first detailed service that I have tackled myself on this truck. Great service from Brookwells in Bovey Tracey for supplying all the kit .

The basics of the oil change, air filter change and all the general prodding around was very straightforward but advice on the fuel filter was a worry. There seem to be two opinions (A) being doomed to an airlock in the fuel pump or (B) a simple change of filter….

I was successful in achieving the simple change and I have just done a ‘ commissioning run’ around Dartmoor steepest lanes. Key thing in the filter change is easy access, speed and preparedness.

1 Jack up the truck and remove the road wheel for good access to the filter
2 Remove the stone shield and do a detailed job with a brush and small screwdriver to remove all the crusted mud from the filter, its mountings, and the pipework
3 Position an old bowl or bucket below the filter into which you can immediately dump the old filter when it is removed
4 Fill the new filter brim full of fresh fuel ( around 400ml) and cut down its packing box to hold it upright ready for installing
5 Get a pair of gloves on and have some cleaning rags or tissue in standby
6 Quickly release the old filter and let it drop into the bowl or bucket.
7 Immediately offer up the fuel filled new one before diesel starts draining from the line
8 Twist it into position, wipe it dry, remove gloves
9 Start the engine and allow it to run for a few minutes whilst you refit the stone guard to the filter housing and refit the road wheel. Run it up to 2500 revs or so fir a few short periods to be sure that minor air bubbles are cleared.
10 Then clear up the messy old filter - check out the amount of separated water from the base valve etc then prepare it all for proper disposal.

Hope this helps to alleviate worries about air locking
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Skippy Blue



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Design idea to make this job less of a gamble

I would like fabricate a simple manifold using ball valves inboard if the chassis rail just after the fuel filter.

One 'leg' of the manifold would have a valve to prevent drain-down from the pump side. Close the valve, slot in a new (fuel filled ) filter, then re- open the valve.

The other ' loop ' would be valved at both ends and incorporate a pumping ball and one way flow to act as a pressurised purging option should it be needed in emergency

.. oh for the simplicity of older landrovers versus the odd design of some aspects of the TDCi !
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I just change mine with a fresh fill of derv, 10 minutes max.
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