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Grenadier



Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
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Vote UKIP
Now, I know we're not meant to talk about politics, sex or religion, less so all at the same time (unless it is one of Laurie's great jokes... Bow down ) but in the words of Baldrick 'I have a cunning plan...'. So bare with me.

I think we, as Defender owners, should do everything we can to ensure UKIP get into Parliament. The reason? Well, as we all know, one of their main policies is to withdraw the UK from the EU and it therefore occurred to me that by doing so Land Rover would no longer be beholden to EU regulation and so could continue production of our beloved Defender!!! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

It might sound far-fetched, but it has to be true. And no doubt if Farage was aware, red-blooded Englishman that he is Whistle , he would indeed have popped it into his manifesto. The fact that it isn't shouldn't stop any of us who us registered doing what is right to Save Our Defender.

So you know what to do, you know where to put your tick. Wink

Now, on to some thoughts on sex and religion..... Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Post #418355 23rd Apr 2015 11:04am
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custom90



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No thank-you. Razz
Post #418370 23rd Apr 2015 12:01pm
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Grenadier



Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
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Crikey man, to save the Defender? On St George's Day? I would never, conscionably, suggest anyone vote for any party, but these are dire times my friend. Needs must, supreme sacrifice, whatever it takes and all that. They could make a movie out of it. Forget Martin Luther King's Million Man March or some B-list celeb saving Pandas, this could be the most memorable and important mobilisation of people, extolling the benefits of democracy, seen since Cadbury brought back the Wispa. Will no-one join me on this revolution? Where's everyone's Spitfire Spirit? I despair. Big Cry Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Post #418376 23rd Apr 2015 12:30pm
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munch90



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there is lots of euro cr@p we could get rid of , if we got out
Post #418378 23rd Apr 2015 12:34pm
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custom90



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Land Rover won't change now, busy perusing the luxury market that is booming. Funny that right now seeing as the country is in such dire straights. (supposedly)
There are some that are buying luxury TOTR RR' s and other vehicles worth much much more again at record sales levels.

And yet other things in the country are near collapse.

Then there is the issue with the EU.
Why prior to 2010 was Scottish referendums for indipendence and the EU not issues at all and yet post 2010 it's major issues.

Most people can figure out what has happened and what changed prior to post 2010.

And I know where my X is going and we want to see a change not a continued disaster.

There are of course EU grants for farmers which is something else that seems little discussed.
Post #418383 23rd Apr 2015 12:40pm
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munch90



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quote:
'There are some that are buying luxury TOTR RR' s and other vehicles worth much much more again at record sales levels'

most aren't buying there just renting and giving back after three years !

not many walk in and hand over 30-40k or more or even get finance and end up actally owning the car
Post #418386 23rd Apr 2015 12:47pm
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Supacat



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Not looked at any figures but don't the lease deals all have significant deposits?

Purchase or lease, you're still going to get smacked down hard by the depreciation, aren't you?
Post #418388 23rd Apr 2015 12:56pm
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custom90



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Trouble is with lease is you never own it and HP often or not by the time it's paid for the vehicle isn't worth a lot or not on the road even.
Most LR's are though I know.
HP and swapping over ever few years more or less means you are permanently paying indefinitely really.

I'm not quipping RR owners of course not but I'm just saying it doesn't stack up having a country so called on its uppers yet certain people are buying super expensive luxuries at a record rate be it out right credit or what ever form.
HP isn't cheap anyway either.
What is a vogue RR now a month? £399 + deposit?
Post #418397 23rd Apr 2015 1:26pm
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mrandmrsh



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custom90steve wrote:
Land Rover won't change now


Ah but if the plan comes to fruition and the lunatics got in JLR would be free to sell the assembled elsewhere for sale outside of the EU regulatory region Defenders that will start rolling off the production line in 2017....

Perhaps we need our own party....

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zone30



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UteKeep?
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gilarion



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Farage owns and drives a Range Rover so he probably does not give a stuff about Defenders! And if ever his party got enough seats to swing a balance of power it would be with the Torys, and then with the massive cutbacks planed none of us would be able to afford to own a Defender Shocked For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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mrandmrsh



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@zone30 brilliant, I scratched my head thinking of a name Bow down 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)

2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ...
1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold
2012 USW XS 2.2 "FUU" now gone....
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theorangebandit



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Its not just the EU that's stopping the defender, its one of very few vehicles still in the country. And they sell so very few of them. Cost of building time taken to build these are all factors to stop making them too. The defender simply isn't making them any cash, even in after sales. Most defender owners are handy with tools. Meaning that servicing and repairs don't see much profit.

I share the sentiment but, ill never vote UKIP just to keep the defender. Change is needed and the land rover heritage image will always be what it is, and these defenders, ninety's, one ten's and series will all live on due to people like us.
Post #418417 23rd Apr 2015 3:14pm
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custom90



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Forgive my ignorance but am I right that it's due to airbags they are stopping it? Or is it more than that again?
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Happyoldgit



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^^^Yes and one of teh reasons they have not been able to sell new ones in the US for years. Steve.
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