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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5668  
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I hope you don't suffer the same problems as me after changing filter. I had a failed vcv, as they are fussy about the quality of fluid.
Andy |
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2nd Dec 2014 2:38pm |
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| Jonno Member Since: 06 Mar 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 234  
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Hopefully not, I tried to keep everything as clean as possible.... the engine inlet was left open for a few minutes, in an ideal world this should have been capped. Maybe next time I'll stick a bit of cling film over it.
I used a fuel priming bulb as I didn't like the other method of filling the filter...as what flows out will be unfiltered and its a gamble whether it is totally clean fuel that goes in. I figured by drawing off a few litres of diesel it would clear the air from the lines and also flush out anything that shouldn't be in the new filter. These few litres then went back into the tank to be refiltered and used. I really don't like some of the methods others suggest, a mate who works for a unnamed main dealer reckons he pours the contents of the old filter into the new, sticks it on and cranks until it goes...to me that's taking a hell of a gamble on hoping no contaminants go down the lines and also pretty much disrespecting the customers vehicle. Also what's the point in changing the filter if you empty the crud out of the old one into it? It's stories like this that make me never use garages....I'm quite capable of trashing my own car thanks ! Although I'm sure there are plenty of conscientious garages, in the past I always seemed to get the monkeys. I know some people think all this fuel system cleanliness is taking things too far, but when you look into the tolerances involved, they really should be worked on in almost clean room conditions. I think I'm taking the middle ground by putting it on dry and drawing some fuel through. If it all goes wrong I'll let everybody know and then figure out a better method.... Jonno |
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2nd Dec 2014 3:49pm |
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| ozy013 Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Melbourne Posts: 105  
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Hey Jonno, I use one of these when putting fuel into a new filter.http://www.mrfunnel.com/Mr._Funnel/Home.html.
The one i have filters down to 5 microns, I have a real small one specifically for filling the fuel filter, and a larger one with a flow rate of about 13ltrs per minute. I use this one when out bush, whether filling from servo's or jerry cans. It's saved me twice so far, and on both occasions it was dodgy fuel from a servo, whilst filling at the pump. |
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3rd Dec 2014 12:20pm |
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| Dieselhead Member Since: 21 Oct 2012 Location: Pulborough. West Sussex Posts: 552 |
All I do when I change my filter is make sure is the area is clean which others have said
I fill up the new filter before I remove the old one Then remove the old filter & fit the new one as quick as I can, Then start & let it tick over, I make sure I have more than 1/2 tank of fuel before I start Chris 2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green 1953 Series 1 for restoration 1983 Mini Mayfair 2004 VW T5 Camper 2008 Diahatsu Sirion. Thats hers Classic Bolens Garden Tractors |
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3rd Dec 2014 3:55pm |
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| AlanH Member Since: 15 Mar 2010 Location: WA Posts: 242
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I do much the same and have never bothered too much about every bit of dust there may be around but just generally keep it clean.
Must say I've never had a filter looking as dirty as that. Surely that points to some problem in the tank? AlanH. |
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12th Dec 2014 8:51am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 
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the first job I done on mine when I got it new was to make a better cover for the filter housing under the wheel arch as it stuck me as a very poor design to have a open top on the std cover allowing dirt and water over the filter housing
now when I change the filter if I take the cover off its nice and clean under there , quick dust off with air line and change filter without the risk of dirt dropping in new one you would be amazed what goes on in garages , unscrew old filter , pour diesel into new one then top out of dirty jug that the old filter have been left to drain out in to , started up and seen this thousands of times and never known a problem , then or after at least we use clean diesel from a jug , that I try to keep clean as possible !! |
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12th Dec 2014 10:00am |
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| Jonno Member Since: 06 Mar 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 234
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I'm not going to nick anyone's photos off the internet but if you search for images of the "diesel bug" that bit of slime / sludge in the bottom of the filter canister looks just like it, but obviously less severe than most of the photos you can find.
I suspect we have the bio element in the fuel to blame for that, that can be anything from vegetable oils to **ap from animal rendering plants. Hopefully the tank isn't totally full of rubbish and gunk, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was. The paper element itself as you can see was also totally covered in slime, it seems that modern diesel isn't what it used to be ! That said the car had no running problems, however next time I might change the filter after 12,000 miles Jonno |
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13th Dec 2014 4:33pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Just taking a loook around the vehicle before it goes in for a service and found these bolts to be the most rusted on the whole vehicle - have I got a set of poorly finished bolts or are they all like this as a result of being encased?
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22nd Apr 2015 7:42am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20300
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I put Dinitrol on those, and the cover is prone to rust too.
Did all of that with it if you mask of bits that it shouldn't go onto. |
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22nd Apr 2015 7:56am |
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| Jonno Member Since: 06 Mar 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 234
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That looks like accelerated corrosion due to road salt to me. Its nothing serious and will happen to any steel in the presence of salt. As others have said slap some Dinitrol on it and it it'll be fine. Jonno |
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22nd Apr 2015 8:06am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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Really informative, thanks, I'll be doing mine soon.
Any chance you could drop a picture of the point where you" disconnected the fuel pipe on the engine and pulled through 3-4 litres" - can you show where you did this please? I've been looking at the pumps (the Land Rover and the Laser one) and wondering about this... Cheers Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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22nd Apr 2015 8:58am |
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| Jonno Member Since: 06 Mar 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 234
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I'm away at the moment but will try to take a pic when I'm home in a few days.
After 5 months or so its still running well so it doesn't appear to have caused any damage. Jonno |
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22nd Apr 2015 9:23am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Anyone got the spec on the bolts they look like M8 with a flanged head but before I take one off it would be good to know the length.
I was just going to get them replaced with A4 stainless ones before applying any corrosion block. |
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22nd Apr 2015 9:23am |
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| andydef90 Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: yorkshire Posts: 617 
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hi what fuel have you been using would not expect that amount in a filter with such low mileage
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22nd Apr 2015 12:18pm |
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