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Def Junkie



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When to replace the Clutch
How do I know it is time for a new clutch. Presently I get a clunky rattle when I start and switch off the engine. Have been told that the death of the clutch on a Puma would be sudden and it won't go thru the slipping phase. Don't want to get stranded but also don't want to go for a replacement unless I absolutely have to.
Post #416445 15th Apr 2015 4:41pm
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bob neville



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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Just had the clutch changed on my 2013 90 for exactly the problem you describe.

Strange thing is I did not hear it but the dealers picked it up when it was in for a service.

Apparently on mine you could only hear the noise with your foot off the clutch when you started it, I always start mine with the clutch depressed, this is why I probably did not hear it - or I have gone deaf Rolling with laughter

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Post #416448 15th Apr 2015 5:14pm
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custom90



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I started to get slip on mine, but it was more or less imminent at the time of going too. So first sign of it get home if you can and park it or in my opinion it will go completely.
Post #416459 15th Apr 2015 6:01pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
In my experience a Puma driven plate lasts about 50k miles before the permanent set on the springs becomes sufficient to warrant replacement. Much above that and you start to run the risk of a spring falling out and making for a much larger bill.

The latest plates are better than the early ones but the springs still take on a permanent set and rattle, eventually falling out if the plate isn't replaced.
Post #416461 15th Apr 2015 6:10pm
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custom90



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Mine went at about 40k, I must say in my opinion they should last at least 60k but they don't.
Having said this, after learning to drive on it that may be part of it.
Post #416466 15th Apr 2015 6:19pm
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Busboy



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
So where do you guys get them replaced? Do you go indi, main, or self service.
Mines on an 11 plate with no problems at the moment ( i shouldn't tempt fate) but all advice for me is a learning process... Thumbs Up
Post #416470 15th Apr 2015 6:28pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
I had my clutch and clunk addressed by Guy Salmon and have just had the paperwork these are they replaced

LLR048731 KIT CLUTCH £217
LLR004390 SLEEVE £37
LLR052128 CYLINDER CLUTCH £66
LIYX500050 RING £11
LKR0500330 SHIELD £30
LLR033026 FLYWHEEL £355
LTUD500020 SHAFT FRONT £43
LLR030054 FLANGE DRIVE £52
LLR006096 BOLT SPECIAL £7
LNY606042 LOCKNUT X12 21P
L571752 GASKET

So it appears it was my gearbox to transfer box shaft that had the play

after about 500 miles the clunk and rattle have not yet come back DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #416473 15th Apr 2015 6:33pm
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custom90



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Guy Salmon for me too in Bristol. You get a warranty too for xx period.
Post #416476 15th Apr 2015 6:40pm
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Caterham



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lr90xs2011

good to hear its sorted....just wondering was your clonk intermittent or always there?

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Post #416480 15th Apr 2015 6:44pm
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miket



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For those of us who are out of warranty, how much are people paying to get a clutch replaced?

Cheers

Mike
Post #416481 15th Apr 2015 6:49pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Caterham wrote:
lr90xs2011

good to hear its sorted....just wondering was your clonk intermittent or always there?

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it was pretty much there all the time unless I was very gentle , I'm not sure if it developed or was there when new I tended to be gentle with it all the time anyway and thought it was normal until I took it to Guy Salmon for the noisy clutch, their tech said it was not normal and they chose to do it with no pressure from me, but it is definitely much tighter in the drive line now. Thumbs Up to GS Cov from me.

ps another well known dealer whom I brought it off and serviced it said it was normal, they were right it was the normal failure mode DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #416498 15th Apr 2015 7:41pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Busboy wrote:
So where do you guys get them replaced? Do you go indi, main, or self service.
Mines on an 11 plate with no problems at the moment ( i shouldn't tempt fate) but all advice for me is a learning process... Thumbs Up


DIY. Quick, not difficult to do, you know the work's been done properly, and you can do other related jobs (lubricating output shaft splines etc) at the same time.

Best of all you're not forking out £50 to £100 per hour to someone who doesn't really care!
Post #416523 15th Apr 2015 9:18pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Mine was done under warranty although out warranty I had complained whilst still in warranty and had e/mails to prove so LRCS on here gave authority. If it wasn't I would have done it myself but used the Ashcroft parts, that is what I will do if it recurs. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #416541 16th Apr 2015 5:12am
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
what are the other bits to do? gbox output shaft - is that the one that ashcrofts do the upgrade for? Cheers

James
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Post #416732 16th Apr 2015 8:59pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Yes, worth checking and lubricating whenever the opportunity arises.
Post #416749 16th Apr 2015 9:35pm
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