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mse



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Welder
Im after a recommendation for a welder.

Nothing too fancy, just something to get me started and to play/learn

Any ideas? Mike
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What type of welding do you want to do?, ie what things do you want to weld?

How thick ?
New stuff or old stuff?
Ally or steel or both? 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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i started with a small gas bottled mig 150A from machine mart which was fine for me to get going. i have recently upgraded to a SIP one (cant remember the number) and an auto darkening lens. a decent lens/headgear system is def worth the money, even even only a hooded one over a std hold op one. at least you have both hands free then. Cheers

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Being a pilot im a little picky over my eyes - so great advice!

As for welding - obviously to me steel, I wasnt really thinking "fix a chassis" level yet, but i suppose that would be the max i would get to.

At the minute its about practicing joining and getting used to making one bit of metal 2

Does that make any sense Mike
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Get the best you can afford....Don't get less than a 150 ...go on youtube to give you a few ideas of how the things work... there's some good vids on there Thumbs Up
As stated before machine mart have a few the first one i had was a sealey 150 good starter machine NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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Thanks - i shall go and look.

Whats the view on Gas or no gas Mike
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Gas Mike you get a better weld Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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Gas it is then Mike
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Sorry for the stupid question...looking at the MIG welders, i also noticed the Arc welders - should i avoid given the comments about welding is better with gas etc?

Or is it a cheap way into the field of welding Mike
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Mike arc welding you don't use gas... but if your going for a mig then gas is the best option Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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fekete wrote:
Mike arc welding you don't use gas... but if your going for a mig then gas is the best option Thumbs Up


Got you, thanks, I was wondering if arc was easier than mig the arc welder i was looking at is £80 and the mig of the same 150amp is £270 - i assumed MIG is better, but with no welding knowledge (other than its a skill!) I have no idea Whistle Mike
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mse

I bought a 150 Sealey mig 6mts ago as I need to do some work on the rear cross member on the 90. I had not welded since the early days of being in the army so wanted to read up on it and practise a bit to avoid pigeon poo and subsequent micky taking from others.

I found this site a real gem.
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/
HTH


Boy


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First off Arc welding is done on thicker metals, plate and piping, not very pretty, used mostly for speed. Mig uses gas to shield giving you cleaner welds, no slag to chip off. Can weld a wider range of thickness of metals. Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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Thanks both

MIG it is then Thumbs Up if im going to do it, may as well do it right and be able to do a reasonable job at it.

Great website - ill have to set some time to go through and certainly save it.

thanks again Mike
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Mike when you get one just practice doing straight lines on a piece of steel don't try getting two metals to stick....it takes time and you can become frustrated....also it's all about penetration you need to get the metal to melt....when i was learning Tig welding that's how we learnt lots of straight lines...Good look mate Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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