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TDfive



Member Since: 02 Sep 2008
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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Java Black
HELP!
HI GUYS
i have a problem with my 110 crew cab td5 (54 plate).
last weekend it started cutting out leave it a couple of minutes and it would under deres start again few miles later would cut out again Crying or Very sad
noticed if you drove it very slowly and did'nt over rev it would behave Rolling Eyes ,fuel pump has been very noisy since i bought the truck , took advice from more than 1 sorce and had the fuel pump replaced.
it is a lot less noisy and runs better but under a heavy right foot it still cuts out .
hope someone out there can help -------------------------------------------------------
05 110 crew cab td5
1987 90 tc TD/200TDI DISCO CONVERTION
Post #40679 16th Sep 2010 8:51pm
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stevie d



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 SW Alpine White
If you think it is fuel starvation, change the fuel filter under the offside wheel arch. Genuine ones are expensive, I've got an allmakes only cost a few pounds.

Steve Defender 90 TD5 Station Wagon
Discovery 3 HSE
BMW 330i Coupe
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
does the engine management light come on? has it been waded recently or is there a chance of water ingress into the throttle sensor - on metal guard next to the accelerator pedal. Try removing the plug, wd40 it and refit. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #40681 16th Sep 2010 8:58pm
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TDfive



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Java Black
stevie d wrote:
If you think it is fuel starvation, change the fuel filter under the offside wheel arch. Genuine ones are expensive, I've got an allmakes only cost a few pounds.

Steve


only just replaced it couple of weeks back Rolling Eyes -------------------------------------------------------
05 110 crew cab td5
1987 90 tc TD/200TDI DISCO CONVERTION
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jst



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Sorry i would of replied quicker if i had been distracted by your avatar! Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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TDfive



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jst wrote:
does the engine management light come on? has it been waded recently or is there a chance of water ingress into the throttle sensor - on metal guard next to the accelerator pedal. Try removing the plug, wd40 it and refit.

no engine management light showing when cutting out, goes very flat power wise as it goes -------------------------------------------------------
05 110 crew cab td5
1987 90 tc TD/200TDI DISCO CONVERTION
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TDfive



Member Since: 02 Sep 2008
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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Java Black
jst wrote:
Sorry i would of replied quicker if i had been distracted by your avatar!


Laughing forgot i'd put that on till i signed in just know Very Happy not been on here in a while been busy playing about with my old 87 fender and getting it very dirty Very Happy -------------------------------------------------------
05 110 crew cab td5
1987 90 tc TD/200TDI DISCO CONVERTION
Post #40685 16th Sep 2010 9:03pm
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jst



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dunno then, Sorry.

maybe alarm/immobiliser fault?
cant be fuel pressure regulator as it would still run even is stuck at LP.
If there are no wng lights coming on does that not suggest something nice and simple and mechanical.
blocked fuel return?
blocked filter?


does it do it after a set time running or just adhoc? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #40686 16th Sep 2010 9:04pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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just reread your post.

So it runs fine if you dont use a heavy right foot? so upto what speed? 50mph?

in that case could be fuel regulator.

Fuel pump was changed with this fault before and the fault still remains yes? or did the engine stopping fault come since the pump was changed? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #40687 16th Sep 2010 9:06pm
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TDfive



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jst wrote:
dunno then, Sorry.

maybe alarm/immobiliser fault?
cant be fuel pressure regulator as it would still run even is stuck at LP.
If there are no wng lights coming on does that not suggest something nice and simple and mechanical.
blocked fuel return?
blocked filter?


does it do it after a set time running or just adhoc?

seems to go for about 2 to 3 miles at a time if you tan the throttle Rolling Eyes
if you drive it like a coffin dodger it dont do it at all Sad -------------------------------------------------------
05 110 crew cab td5
1987 90 tc TD/200TDI DISCO CONVERTION
Post #40688 16th Sep 2010 9:07pm
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jst



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Sorry, got to go, hope you sort this. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #40691 16th Sep 2010 9:11pm
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TDfive



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jst wrote:
just reread your post.

So it runs fine if you dont use a heavy right foot? so upto what speed? 50mph?

in that case could be fuel regulator.

Fuel pump was changed with this fault before and the fault still remains yes? or did the engine stopping fault come since the pump was changed?


seems if you stay below 60mph it dont play up , also if you dont get too frisky pulling away Rolling Eyes -------------------------------------------------------
05 110 crew cab td5
1987 90 tc TD/200TDI DISCO CONVERTION
Post #40692 16th Sep 2010 9:14pm
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K9F



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Hi TDfive,

I like the avatar too....I reckon Sonic's avatar has had her t1ts done and you've got the 'post op' avatar.... Razz

I'm on the same lines as JST with the blockage theory, or it could be a split pipe as well maybe,

Not an expert at all but would put money on it that it is fuel starvation and by booting it the fuel pipes are cavitating. I have very limited experience on the fuel mechanics of a Defender, however if you are mechanically minded, have access to an airline how about disconnecting the fuel feed and returns and blowing them out with air then blocking them up and do a pressure test? Personally I reckon you've got a restriction/blockage somewhere or perhaps a split pipe that is sucking in air under load possibly???

Hope this helps and good luck in your quest to find a resolution. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #40697 17th Sep 2010 5:56am
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landy andy



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Sounds like fuel starvation, have you tried driving it with fuel cap off????????

Then consider fuel filter, fuel pressure regulator, fuel lines

Also check air filter, just in case.

When it dies can you still hear fuel pump?, if not check relays under seat, as one may be getting hot.

Andy
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mse



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When you have made sure the fuel system is ok...try the throttle potentiometer (name remembered) its the unit that is a bit like a scalextric control takes the throttle position and changes it to what the car does...this is very similar to a fault i have expereinced.

Basically when you press it hard (boot it) the movement hits the patch that doesnt work and it dies ... when you gentle you use the good bit and its ok.

Description of what it does:
Quote:
A throttle potentiometer is normally located on the throttle body, at the opposite side to the throttle linkage, Its purpose in life is to inform the ECU of the throttle position. Early potentiometers were not potentiometers at all but simply switches that informed the ECU of either idle or full throttle conditions.

As ECU's became more sophisticated it was found that there was a need for a more accurate method of measuring the interim throttle position, hence the potentiometer.

The potentiometer type sensor is also used to measure the rate of change of throttle position, this gives an indication of how fast the driver wants to accelerate or decelerate.


Thus you hit a point and it thinks the driver has gone Thumbs Up Mike
Post #40716 17th Sep 2010 8:41am
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