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blackwolf



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need4speed wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
Why on earth would you want to remove a TDCi to replace it with a TD5?


Because it sounds better. Its more reliable. More tuning potential.

Apart from that no reason Laughing


I give you the sound, but disagree on both the other points! Very Happy

They are equally reliable (you'll find horror stories for both, of course, but they're both good engines), and they're both tunable to a comparable degree.

For the record, my personal view is that the TD5 is the best engine LR ever designed, but the TDCi has produced a better overall vehicle in the Defender.

I also know that people will debate this until hell freezes and never agree!

I wonder if the same "which is better" debate happened when the 1600 was increased to 1997cc in 1952/3? I expect so!
Post #402832 27th Feb 2015 6:25pm
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need4speed



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You can disagree if you like. Doesnt mean im wrong. Laughing

Yes the td5 engine had issues at the beginning but they were soon ironed out. Cant say that for the Puma...

Also, you can get waay more power out the 5 cyl td5 than you can the Puma. Thats just a fact im afraid. Not saying it would be cheap, but tuning any engine is expensive.
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bob neville



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I've got the best of both worlds then, a BAS mapped 2.2 and a TD5 Ner Ner

Which one is better is a tricky thing. The tuned 2.2 is excellent for road use, still OK off road, and is my daily drive. TD5 (not tuned - yet !) is excellent off road and is fine for journeys where you don't want to do over 65mph.

So, which one is better - neither as they are both good vehicles in my opinion.

Which one gives me more smiles per mile ....... probably the TD5 Thumbs Up

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Post #402843 27th Feb 2015 6:48pm
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need4speed



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To be honest i dislike both of them. Much prefer my 4.6 V8 Ner Ner
Post #402900 27th Feb 2015 8:45pm
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bob neville



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Would love a nice big V8 again, just can't justify the fuel bill Big Cry

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !
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need4speed



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Yeah they like a drink. So worth it for THAT noise!! Cool
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