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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309  
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I agree with your conclusions. I looked at refurbishing a 170k mile Td5 110 hardtop into a 110 usw, butdecided a TDCi was better.
Hunters LR Derby have a base spec 90 HT TDCi in at the moment, it gets you a TDCi at much less than the new price - check it out if you get chance. I'm sore it's around 2007/2008 and approx. 13-14k. Good luck, Harvey |
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25th Aug 2010 3:14pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4655 
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Have had a Puma for two years now. Cannot think of any reason not to buy one. Wonderful machine, no journey too long when you are driving one but plenty of journeys seem too short! Buy it, relish it, and allow yourself to be just taken over by the sheer joy of it. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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25th Aug 2010 4:26pm |
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| Arctic Member Since: 25 Aug 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 45 |
Thanks for the replies, they seem positive. I took a look at the one for sale in Derby but I think that, given some of the problems that people have had, I'd feel safer with a newer one and long warranty. I thought that, if I sell my car and use it as my only vehicle, I could in some way justify the extra cost. So, any ideas what a new base-spec 90 Hard Top could be had for? I assume the dealers have some margins to work with or?
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25th Aug 2010 4:33pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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 Couldn't have summed it up better!!! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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25th Aug 2010 6:24pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4655
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 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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25th Aug 2010 7:25pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8025  
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personally i would buy it with all the extras you can afford. its harder to add bits later and can cost more. Heated seats and front screen are a god send and ABS/TC is worthwhile in my experience. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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25th Aug 2010 7:43pm |
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| johnnyturbo2002 Member Since: 21 May 2009 Location: Poniente Granadino Posts: 371  
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I ditto the above, buy it with as much pazazz as you can afford, even if for sheer resale value. Mine has the full leather seats, heated, windscreen heat, air, and what ever else comes with that package and it is very nice to have them when you want or need them.
Cheers Spudfan, well said. 2008 Defender 110 60 year Edition (sold unfortunately) IN the hunt for another Puma for the wifey! 2008 Kia Sorento LX 😁 2.5crdi |
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25th Aug 2010 7:47pm |
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| Froogle-Yorkshireman Member Since: 10 Jul 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 350
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Spot on spudfan
Spot on JST
XS is the way to go Proud owner 110 Utility XS
Ex RR Sport HST V8 Ex Td5 90 |
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25th Aug 2010 8:41pm |
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| MrFlips Member Since: 27 May 2009 Location: Cardiff Posts: 682  
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I was also hugely tempted to go down the route of buying a fully refurbished TDi on a galvanised chassis, but eventually went with the Puma as a three year warranty appealed a lot. My only regret with buying such a new vehicle has been the fear felt when driving it off road when the going gets a little rough (that said, I wouldn't want to change it).
I bought the County, and as such don't have ABS and ETC, and the only time mine has ever let me down offroad has been down to my own inability - the Defender is more than capable of keeping up with anyone else. Just to go against the flow, if I was buying one I'd go for the base spec - I like modifying things myself, and it saves me having to find any more space in my house to store seats, mudflaps, towbars, wooden cubby-boxes, low-spec radios, etc. It depends how easy you want it to be if you need to sell it. As Spud and Johnny say, the higher spec it is, the easier it will sell (personally I'm keeping mine until either me or the Landy dies, so it wasn't a factor). Whatever Defender you buy, it'll be wonderful. Peter
2008 SWB Truck Cab 1952 80" Soft top |
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25th Aug 2010 8:46pm |
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| Arctic Member Since: 25 Aug 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 45 |
Thanks. The plan would be to keep it for a long time and I therefore thought the less to go wrong the better. I mean, thinks like heated seats, electric windows etc are nice but then may fail when the vehicle gets older. Or do most people here see the new Defenders as shorter term vehicles like other modern cars? That is, they expect to trade them in or sell them after say 3-5 years for a newer model? What kind or percentage would you get from a Land Rover dealer if doing just that after 3 years? Do they depreciate a lot in that time? Of course, the Defender may not be around later, another reason I thought of buying one to keep. Any thoughts would be appreciated as it is a lot of money so I want to make an educated decision.
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26th Aug 2010 11:05am |
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| KarlB Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Canberra Posts: 91  
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If you are going to drive the vehicle hard then I think you are crazy not to get ABS. D90s are surprisingly zippy and great fun to drive but they do not handle like a sports cars. ABS equals safety and the associated traction control does increase their 'off-road' capability. You may well be able to tackle all the same testing conditions, and get through without ETC but you will put more strain on the vehicles and this reduces reliability and longevity.
Cheers KarlB |
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26th Aug 2010 11:06am |
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| Arctic Member Since: 25 Aug 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 45 |
That makes sense yet how reliable are the ABS and ETC systems? I don't plan to drive it hard and am used to vehicles without ABS and ETC, both older cars and a SWB Series II I have. My main concern is to have a simple and reliable vehicle which will last and not cost a fortune one the warranty has run out.
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26th Aug 2010 11:22am |
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| KarlB Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Canberra Posts: 91
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I have not seen any suggestion that ABS and ETC are not totally reliable. I had an ABS failure in a Discovery after about 1000 km but have since done another 180,000 km without a hiccough. Even with the ABS failure, I still had 'normal' braking.
Cheers KarlB |
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27th Aug 2010 5:52am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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You have now, allbeit a minor one, but with several sufferers! http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2394.html?highlight=abs If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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27th Aug 2010 7:46am |
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