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| steventheplumber Member Since: 29 Apr 2014 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 767   
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I would try looking at the cable connectors at he battery and the alternator connections. Best of luck
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10th Jan 2015 9:20pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347  
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Have you checked the stop solenoid on the injector pump? Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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10th Jan 2015 9:23pm |
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| cornish rattler Member Since: 31 Aug 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 642 
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Yeah with the engine running but ignition switched off and if i pull the wire off the stop solenoid the engine cuts out so i assume thats working ok
 Graham
1988 Defender 90 county 200tdi ( Beast ) Paul Walker 1973-2013 ( I Almost Had You ) |
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10th Jan 2015 9:44pm |
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| steventheplumber Member Since: 29 Apr 2014 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 767
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Have you had the timing checked?
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11th Jan 2015 8:08am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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when you say bad starting
does it turn over ok but not start ? or not turn over ? bad switching off does it keep running with key off ? when switched off how long does it run for ? how does it stop like being switched off or sputters and dies ? |
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11th Jan 2015 10:08am |
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| Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501 
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Run an extra earth cable from the engine to the chassis to eliminate any earthing problems. I had temp gauge problems with my 19J when I first bought it tried new senders and tried a mates gauge all to no avail, fitted an extra earth and problem disappeared. 2005 Td5 90 XS
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11th Jan 2015 10:27am |
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| cornish rattler Member Since: 31 Aug 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 642
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Hi munch90 Yeah the bad starting is it turns over ok but won't start but will do this for about 3 atemps then starts ok but sometimes it will start without any problem aswell. The bad switching off is when you go to switch the engine off the engine will carry on running sometimes for a few second's sometimes for 10-15ish second's but sometimes it will switch off as it should do aswell. so with both faults its very unprodictable when it does it, but since fitting the new ignition switch the other day it seems slightly better meaning if it starts first time it normally switches off straight away when you next switch off but if it takes a couple of goes to start it you can more or less guarentee it will run on when you next switch it off. it does all this no matter how long or short a jurney you have done it will even do ths just in the drive you can start it and in will start ok and switch off ok the next it can take 3 goes to start and come to switch it off it will run on, so i don't know really  Graham
1988 Defender 90 county 200tdi ( Beast ) Paul Walker 1973-2013 ( I Almost Had You ) |
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12th Jan 2015 12:19am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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Blimey that is a bit odd /interesting problem , have to think adout that one !
sticky relay ? when you replaced the ign switch did you replace the electric bit on the back as well ? |
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12th Jan 2015 6:33am |
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| cornish rattler Member Since: 31 Aug 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 642
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Not sure what you mean as there was just 6 wires i think that connect to the ignition switch didn't know about a relay but does sound right though
 Graham
1988 Defender 90 county 200tdi ( Beast ) Paul Walker 1973-2013 ( I Almost Had You ) |
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12th Jan 2015 12:47pm |
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| jonp Member Since: 11 Jan 2015 Location: Barnard Castle, County Durham Posts: 4 
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Hi
The problem you have is a typical example of a sticking solenoid in the Fuel Injection Pump ( FIP). This is not unusual for 300TDi and 200 Tdi engine. I believe your your FIP is a BOSCH unit. Then genuine replacement solenoid is quite expensive but a good quality aftermarket part is much cheaper. I think it is called " Diesel fuel cut off solenoid switch part number RTC6702. They are used in the Defender Discovery 1 & Range Rover Classic." Check this info against your engine or VIN number to be sure. Is it fair to assume your car has the original engine replaced with a 200 Tdi ? The price for the part will range from £10 to £100+. If it has an engine transplant do not use the VIN number use engine number and info from original donor vehicle. Regarding the electrical problem your best bet is to clean / remake the alternator connections and main earth points to chassis and engine, and bodywork Regards Jonathan |
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13th Jan 2015 7:06pm |
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| cornish rattler Member Since: 31 Aug 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 642
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Cheers jonathan yeah we ordered one the other day which has now arrived so will be replacing it at the weekend although the two problems have now gone as son was board at work and decided to have a go at cleaning the terminals on the fuel solenoid and wire aswell as removed the ignition relay and cleaned the terminals to that aswell so will defo be replacing that just to be on the safe side
Graham
1988 Defender 90 county 200tdi ( Beast ) Paul Walker 1973-2013 ( I Almost Had You ) |
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15th Jan 2015 12:05am |
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