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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610   
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Roel hit the nail on the head as tyres also have a significant influence on braking capability. Upgrading of brakes doesn't appear to be a 'high frequence' modification, your terrain must be quite radical for an upgrade of brakes to be high on your list of priorities, or you must be carrying alot of weight one would surmise. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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28th Jul 2010 5:07pm |
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| Bomber82 Member Since: 20 Oct 2009 Location: Alessandria - Italy Posts: 216  
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What you say is right!
Perhaps it would be to make a preliminary ... Increasing the braking power is being to influence the kinematics of the vehicle, then play a key role not only tires but also the suspension, they increase the movement of cargo from front to rear, and lighten the rear of a vehicle like the 110 is not never a good thing! You've never driven a 90 and a 110 on a snowy mountain road full of hairpin turns? Well the different reactions that have vehicles in curves are similar to those under braking (without ABS ...) That's why the first change I made was to mount four Scola shock with adjustable preload compression and rebound, custom-made for my 110. In this way you can have a set-up like a go-kart to use every day, and you can soften it all if necessary. With this solution I could get rid of the anti-roll bars to increase the off-road excursion. Tire speech is important, the General Grabber series offer a good grip also on wet surfaces, the problem arises when I assemble the Kumho KL-71 but, as they say, you can not have your cake and eat it too ... 
If the brake system of 90 and 110 are different I am not convinced, I do not have the "little cat" on hand to check ... Matteo Defender 110 Td4 SE MY 09 |
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29th Jul 2010 5:54am |
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| Bomber82 Member Since: 20 Oct 2009 Location: Alessandria - Italy Posts: 216
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So now I have last quotation:
Nitrac 16 groove front vented discs € 213.71 16 groove rear discs € 197.98 Shipping € 36.32 Total € 448.01 ( £370.06) Tarox G88 front vented discs € 256.05 G88 rear discs € 250.00 Shipping € 36.32 Total € 542.37 ( £449.36) I discarded DBA discs because are too expensive, costs almost twice .... I know Tarox very well, but I've never heard about Nitrac... The price difference is not little, I can buy a full set of pads with it!! About pads, Nitrac recommended EBC (because they sell it...), Greenstuff are good pads?? Matteo Defender 110 Td4 SE MY 09 |
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3rd Aug 2010 8:38am |
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| Porny Site Sponsor Member Since: 31 Aug 2009 Location: Sutton Coldfield - West Midlands Posts: 809 
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From past experience, I have never been that impressed with EBC green stuff pads or discs... well as a combined package. They seen to have a very narrow window when they work.. from cold they are no better than standard, as they warm up they get ok, but then they seem to back off again very quickly - i.e. back to brake fade when driven enthusiastically.
I also think DBA for example don't recommend the use of EBC pads with their discs. If you wanted to go further than just a pad and disc change, I will soon be able to offer a 6 pot caliper and 346mm disc conversion for all Defenders. This will out perform any other kit avalaible, and for less money. But you will need to run 18" wheels 
Ian |
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20th Aug 2010 1:11pm |
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| Bomber82 Member Since: 20 Oct 2009 Location: Alessandria - Italy Posts: 216
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I was thinking exactly as you Porny about EBC!!
I will choose the Ferodo or Brembo, Tarox are very good but too much expensive... Unfortunately here in Italy we cannot mount 18" wheels....  Matteo
Defender 110 Td4 SE MY 09 |
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20th Aug 2010 2:40pm |
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| Porny Site Sponsor Member Since: 31 Aug 2009 Location: Sutton Coldfield - West Midlands Posts: 809
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Shame you can't fit 18's... lol 
With a big 6 pot caliper your Defender would stop very well!! Ian |
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21st Aug 2010 3:56pm |
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| Bomber82 Member Since: 20 Oct 2009 Location: Alessandria - Italy Posts: 216
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The bigest tyre we are alowed to mount on Defender is 255/85/16....someone also 285 but is not so "official"...
 Matteo
Defender 110 Td4 SE MY 09 |
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21st Aug 2010 8:27pm |
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