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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686  |
Does Pete Bell at BAS not do the remaps for Bowler or help to develop them??
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3rd Nov 2014 7:50pm |
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| jomara Member Since: 26 Oct 2009 Location: Lanarkshire Posts: 1790  
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When we were at Bowlers works we were told that Pete had been involved in helping developing the unique map for them. Not had a chance to drive one of their fast road Defenders yet to compare them.
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1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto 2022 110 D250 XS Edition - Gone 2024 110 D250 X-Dynamic HSE |
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3rd Nov 2014 8:15pm |
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| pj2106 Member Since: 20 Dec 2012 Location: Huntingdon AKA The Shire Posts: 1500  
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pete at BAS does all the tuning for bowler including the rally cars 2008 110 2.4 XS Utility (Hagrid)
2002 90 TD5 Hardtop (Sully) Sold 1998 300TDi D1 (Billy) Sold |
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3rd Nov 2014 10:01pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232 
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Hi
Bowler do not offer tuning on the Puma 2.4 and only deal with the new 2.2 they are producing road cars and rally cars from. If you need a puma 2.4 tune we have a couple of remove optionson our web site for this. Regards Pete |
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4th Nov 2014 10:02am |
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| Helfinger Member Since: 25 Jun 2014 Location: Nottingham Posts: 7 
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I have the bowler stage 1, it has made a huge difference, the vehicle is so much easier to drive, its so responsive now, it rev's so freely up the rev range, and in defender terms goes like stink compared to what it was like previously, it does surprise a few cars on the road thinking its going to be slow, the torque is also improved up the rev range. I would totally recommend this upgrade.
I do also have a twisted full exhaust system which has also improved things further. i will be looking at the stage 2 in march next year... hope that helps....  Defender 90 HT XS 'Black Pack' - 2015 - Corris Grey & a few other bits Arriving Sept |
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6th Nov 2014 4:30pm |
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| captain slow Member Since: 22 Jun 2011 Location: Herts Posts: 355 
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I have had two remaps over the years in land rovers that I've owned one. The first one was a Discovery 2 Td5 and was remapped by Gary at Alive. It was fabulous. The second was an autologic remap in my D3 which was underwhelming to say the least and ruined its low range/ offroad performance
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Helfinger - Can I ask : what effect has the bowler stage 1 re-map had on your low range performance? 2.2 Tdci 110 XS CSW Corris Grey Prince Harry's D3 (gone but not forgotten) 300 Tdi 110 CSW (gone but not forgotten) |
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6th Nov 2014 5:02pm |
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| Helfinger Member Since: 25 Jun 2014 Location: Nottingham Posts: 7
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To be quite honest, i have not tried it in the low range box as the vehicle is only 7 weeks old....this defender is my day to day 2nd vehicle and will only spend its life on the road, the most it will be going off road, will be up curbs and road speed humps i'm afraid! Defender 90 HT XS 'Black Pack' - 2015 - Corris Grey & a few other bits
Arriving Sept |
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6th Nov 2014 5:08pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8030 
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i have not driven a Bowler stage 1 but have driven a Bowlers stage 2 - wow that goes well, good work Pete and Bowler.
in fact drove it today whilst doing the cover shoot for LRO Dec issue. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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6th Nov 2014 5:47pm |
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| TJ101 Member Since: 30 May 2007 Location: Taunton Somerset Posts: 3750  
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To add to above,, also driven a Bowlers stage 2 both on and off road in a 90,,
In a word,, Impressive Some phone calls to be made me thinks California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1
Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK |
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4th Dec 2014 6:17pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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The road going stage 2 can in some instances be a little better again than some of the rally cars, that is because the rally car is running a turbo restrictor in the turbo intake for MSA regulations.
Pete. |
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4th Dec 2014 6:48pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8030
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the one Tim drove have custom exhaust and turbo too Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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4th Dec 2014 8:54pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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Was it a rally car with role cage or road car ?
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4th Dec 2014 9:46pm |
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| TJ101 Member Since: 30 May 2007 Location: Taunton Somerset Posts: 3750
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Road car Pete, so no MSA restrictor, but with a cage California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1
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4th Dec 2014 9:52pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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One of the fitter ones then
silly MSA rules not needed their then hehe.
Not sure what you and other people think but the suspention impresses me, I like the way it just sits their with no wallowing and bouncing about which helps you use the power without fear or rolling over lol.  Click image to enlarge |
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4th Dec 2014 9:57pm |
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