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defenderv8t



Member Since: 06 Oct 2014
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Projector hid on Crystal wipac headlight for Defender
Hello guys,

I am thinking to replace the hid H4 currently i use the crystal headlights to hid projectors.
Has anyone done this before?

Thanks
Post #365378 18th Oct 2014 8:09am
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
I'm not entirely sure I understand your post, are you saying you already have HIDs and are looking to change to a different sort?

Just have a quick read of this thread:

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30217.html
Post #365427 18th Oct 2014 3:14pm
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are they illegal in Greece? My 109 thread

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Post #365428 18th Oct 2014 3:23pm
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I think there are kits that you cut the back of the headlight out and replace the bulb with a projector unit. I think one of the bolt on bits defenders had it done if I remember correctly Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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Post #365430 18th Oct 2014 3:25pm
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leeds



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Would suggest people read the Department for Transport view on HIDs HERE



The important bits are

Quote:



In the Department for Transport's (DfT) view it is not legal to sell or use after
market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID
Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must
purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps.






also

Quote:


Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the aftermarket should:
1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component;
2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be
complied with (although no government inspection will take place); and
3. comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.


In practice this means:
1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to
ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done
by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. - who must test the
headlamp in an independent laboratory.



Also need headlight cleaning and self levelling to be legal



So basically HID conversions are illegal. Can only fit complete HID Headlights with cleaning and self levelling.

The chances of a HID conversion in a Defender in the UK being legal is slim to non existence!

As for legality in Greece I have not got a clue.



Brendan
Post #365436 18th Oct 2014 3:52pm
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defenderv8t



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Cupboard wrote:
I'm not entirely sure I understand your post, are you saying you already have HIDs and are looking to change to a different sort?

Just have a quick read of this thread:

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30217.html



I mean that i all ready have hid h4 but i want to convert the headlights to projectors, because the beam get more specific.

Thanks
Post #365459 18th Oct 2014 5:24pm
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defenderv8t



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grafty99 wrote:
I think there are kits that you cut the back of the headlight out and replace the bulb with a projector unit. I think one of the bolt on bits defenders had it done if I remember correctly Thumbs Up



I think is the only way, i have seen many videos in youtube.

I was just wondering if anybody has done this and what size had used 2",2,5" or 3".
Post #365461 18th Oct 2014 5:29pm
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defenderv8t



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g-mack wrote:
are they illegal in Greece?


In Greece they are not so strict with that, also the car can pass technical inspection without issue, except if the light beam is in the sky!!
Post #365462 18th Oct 2014 5:31pm
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QQ I was just wondering if anybody has done this and what size had used 2",2,5" or 3". QQ

Not me, that's for sure. What you talk about is simply fully illegal in each and every EU country, and rightly so.
A lens which is made and type approved for H4 bulbs, is just not suited for HID bulbs and the like. Invariably cars who put HID bulbs or as you say a projector behind H4 lenses will dazzle oncoming trafic, and I am one of the people who do not really appreciate that. If you want to improve your lights, do it legally, eventually go for a type approved LED solution. Thumbs Up
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Post #365465 18th Oct 2014 5:39pm
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defenderv8t



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Ok you are right, but I believe if the lights are adjusted correctly no worries for the oncoming traffic.

Before 1 month i export a car with hid aftermarket headlights to Germany, the technical inspection there didn't had any issues. Because it was adjusted correctly and by professional..

Thanks
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munch90



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yes there is a good chance that they would pass a mot inspection here in uk too , but still would not be legal

there are lots of things that are not illegal to sell by are illegal to use on a public highway
Post #365472 18th Oct 2014 6:01pm
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