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g-mack



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yuup, its rather loud and very annoying.
did a little more playing today and noticed it doesn't need to be under load. so its definitely at certain rev range. doesn't matter what gear or speed, video was shot at roughly 5mph!
when driving in 5th at 65 no booming at that speed, let foot off go pedal and let the engine slow it down to 40mph as the revs drop the booming starts.
so it booms when accelerating and decelerating!
removed cyclone breather from air intake incase there was back pressure in the air intake, nope no different. another go with air pipe off turbo (intake side) massive sucking noise but booming still there.
so im ruling out induction noises!
thinking about investigating engine mounts next. as this problem came on gradually and not suddenly! My 109 thread

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shaggydog



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Engine and gearbox mounts are a good shout.

Also check your exhaust rubbers and what they attach to.
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g-mack



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update:
changed OS engine mount for new gen part, this afternoon. booming is STILL there!! Big Cry Big Cry
it may be a little better though but not driven it enough to decide. suppose i will have to do other side next!! this is getting daft!!! My 109 thread

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Is your cam timing ok?
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g-mack



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not been checked in a while, could that cause booming? My 109 thread

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Fatboy Slim



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Could do. I had a 200 once that was very similar to that, the cam pulley was loose and had fretted the woodruff key on the cam. Easy to check on a 300.
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g-mack



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I still have this awful booming noise under load and decided to have another crack at finding what the hell is causing it!
removed ALL associated pipe work up to turbo to eliminate vibration from it. noise still there just moved to turbo inlet!!
finally admitted defeat and took it to a garage!. timing is fine engine revs freely, no smoke, no stutters or hesitation.
the wastage appears to be seized closed!!
so thats my next job freeing that up.
the theory is gate stuck closed(more likely not tightly closed) exhaust gasses have nowhere to go and building up pressure!
can anyone confirm my theory or am i just clutching at straws!! My 109 thread

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munch90



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Be honest i dont think the waste gate would cause that and from a seized waste gate you would get over boosting .

Waste gate can be hard to diagnose, because they dont move much at all when revved stationery as the engine isnt under any load
people often think they move a lot , but revving stationery it might only move 1-3mm on the rod

didnt you have the head off a while ago ?
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g-mack



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yea had a new head on last year.
im not trying to watch the WG move, I'm physically trying to move it with force!!
I'm really running out of options here Big Cry My 109 thread

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munch90



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There on quite a strong spring ! Normally you need to use a lever to try them

Is all the pipe from filter to turbo standard ?
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g-mack



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yep all standard.this noise is definitely coming from the inlet plenum chamber. My 109 thread

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munch90



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Real odd one that !
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g-mack



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tell me about it!!! My 109 thread

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g-mack



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right turbo all back on, pulls a little better BUT booming still there!.

off to find a nice cliff to drive off now Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad My 109 thread

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Big Cry

Ok so you have done

New head
New centre exhaust
New engine and gearbox rubbers
Checked timing
New exhaust rubbers
Cleaned intercooler and checked turbo pipework

Just trying to think what is left to do or look at Sad

Only thing I can think of is that your exhaust is resonating with a body panel at a certain rev range. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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