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Monmouth



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Wales 1990 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Firenze Red
Snow tyres - do they come in different levels of knoblyness?
I'm after a set of winter tyres in 235/85 16 for a forthcoming trip to Lapland. All the tyres I've seen seem to be based on road tyres but with extra siping and made from softer compounds. Does anyone make a true winter tyre based on a mud terrain tyre rather than road/AT tyres. Hope that makes some kind of sense! 1990 Defender 300TDi
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AndrewS



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Monmouth



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Wales 1990 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Firenze Red
Cooper Discover M&S are the knoblyest that I've found so far... 1990 Defender 300TDi
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Monmouth



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Wales 1990 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Firenze Red
AndrewS wrote:
http://www.goodyear.eu/uk_en/tires/4x4/wrangler-duratrac/index.jsp?from=browse


Don't think they make them in 235/16. Shame. 1990 Defender 300TDi
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bpman



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
I used cooper m&s a couple if years ago on a trip to nordkapp, those and nokians seem to be the tyres of choice for Scandinavia
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jimbob7



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Winter tyres and snow tyres are generally different,winter tyres have much less aggressive tread suited for very cold or freezing,icy roads.Snow tyres are for, er, snow.imo I'd stick with winter tyres which much more practical and still take you pretty much anywhere and carry a set of chains which will take you anywhere. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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ericvv



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^^ Jim, winter tires as we know are of a softer compound and have specific additional sipes which flexibility supposedly allows snow to evacuate more easily.

So what are the specifics of a "snow" tire then which you say are different from winter tires?

Can you give examples of what you call real "snow" tires, and which would not fall under the more common denominator of winter tires? I don't know of the existence of any tire at all which is a real "snow" tire. I know people on here often talk about "snow" tires, but I believe that category just does not even exist. All those tires are actually "winter" tires.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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mick



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England 2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Rimini Red
I have some Nokian A/T on mine with extra sips in

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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
^^ Nice tire Thumbs Up , believe relatively new too, but it clearly is a summer tire. They could be my next summer tire actually as they exist in our standard Defender size.
http://www.nokiantyres.com/summer-tyres/nokian-rotiiva-at/

As winter tire, here is the Nokia tire of choice for our Defenders. Land Rover Switzerland sell these as an official LR accessory. I have those on Wolfs from when the truck was new, cannot fault them in the winter.
http://www.nokiantyres.com/winter-tyres/nokian-hakkapeliitta-lt2/

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #357296 11th Sep 2014 6:22pm
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mick



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England 2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Rimini Red
Nope it's good in snow apparently might not be up to your conditions but for the UK they reckon its good enough Wink I have been in muddy fields with no problems just need the white stuff to try now Thumbs Up
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MadTom



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Czech Republic 1999 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Baltic Blue
I have Cooper Discoverer winter tires in 235/85/R16 on Discovery2 and they are very good winter tires. They can be compared to BFG AT, when not on snow. I can recomend. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "BlufĂ­nek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
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Michaels Defender



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These are my Nokians which I will be putting back on my Defender in November Thumbs Up

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Muddybigdog



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Studs all the way for lapland, plus engine/diesel heater, having spent some time in Oulu, during winter -20 on a warm day, cold night with wind chill -50, skin and eyes will freeze if not covered. Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
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Axel



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Germany 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
Cooper Discoverer M&S Thumbs Up Best Regards,

Axel
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