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ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777 |
Hi Folks,
My 110 2.4tdci approx. 85k miles has started to play up when cold. It starts instantly either with or without using the glow plug timer, but either way when you go to pull away, there is no power, its like its on 2 1/2 cylinders for maybe two or three seconds, then whoosh, big belt of black smoke and we're away. It only happened first thing in the morning and seems to be worse when its colder. I'm either guessing that its glow plugs or is there another temperature sensor anywhere? Is there a simple way to test the plugs or at approx. £12 each do I swap them out to try? Cheers Keith |
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25th Aug 2014 8:06pm |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20294 |
Could be fuel filter needs changing, when was the last service?
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25th Aug 2014 8:11pm |
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ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777 |
Hi Steve,
filter was done in June with oils etc plus major brake overhaul, prior to holiday trip to France. Runs perfectly otherwise though, just did 80 up the dual carriageway hill out of Monmouth so fuels getting through! Cheers Keith |
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25th Aug 2014 8:17pm |
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ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777 |
Thanks Munch,
How would I know if there was & where would I look for a an air leak into the fuel system? If there was a leak on the suction side, would it not pull air in all the time so hoofing up the A40 wouldn't be possible? Cheers Keith |
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25th Aug 2014 8:53pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
modern diesels can put up with quite a bit of air in diesel , quite often on a diesel with clear pipes you see bubbles going up the pipe and they still run ok
but running back leaves in big long bubble which could be a problem if you start it let run for a min does it still do it ? or hold tick over up a bit when first started does it still do it? ( not flat out just up a bit! ) is it down on power or actually misfiring ? [u]check the filter on tight , easy to tighten to first notch and not to second , give it a twist by hand to make sure[/u] Last edited by munch90 on 25th Aug 2014 9:19pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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25th Aug 2014 9:06pm |
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ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777 |
Cheers Munch
I will try the fast tick over and other bits tomorrow, but yes after the first three seconds it runs superbly. It has always been a bit 'lurchy' at very slow speeds, trickling along through a car park etc. and sometimes smoky especially when cold, first and second gear, but otherwise really sweet. I'll report back tomorrow! Thanks again. Keith |
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25th Aug 2014 9:18pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
check the filter on tight
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25th Aug 2014 9:20pm |
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ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777 |
Thanks Munch,
Filter was reluctant to turn but then did another 90 degrees to a definite stop, so hopefully you've cured it! It started up fine, (but obviously if the filter has been letting air in there would be a fault still today) and picked the revs up, it coughed and spluttered for about 3 seconds and then ran fine, nipped round the block and its great - will try again in the morning. Cheers Keith |
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26th Aug 2014 7:05pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
yea ,be handy if that's it , fingers crossed
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26th Aug 2014 8:17pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
how did you get on ? any good
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28th Aug 2014 9:59pm |
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ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777 |
Hi Munch,
Tried it very quickly this morning, unfortunately brought it up to approx 1300 rpm and it still coughed and spluttered for a few seconds, not had chance to drive it yet though.... Best regards Keith |
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29th Aug 2014 6:30pm |
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dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 |
When the car cough and splut, are the injectors noisy?
If yes should be the fuel filter or the fuel lines partially clogged Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition IID Pro MV License |
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30th Aug 2014 7:43am |
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ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777 |
Hi Danielle,
No, no injector noise at all, it coughs and splutters, throws out a load of blue smoke that turns quickly to black smoke and then clears and runs as sweet as a nut. I'll try and video it in the morning. Cheers Keith |
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30th Aug 2014 2:58pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
blue smoke is normally oil burning
check oil level? oil in breather hose ? check turbo ? |
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30th Aug 2014 3:05pm |
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