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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626   
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Meow  NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY |
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10th Jun 2010 4:53pm |
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| heinrichnel Member Since: 07 Apr 2010 Location: Windhoek, Namibia Posts: 42  
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The more I think about this 2.2lt engine, the more upset I get! What about the 3.2lt 5 cylinder Ford, I would trade my 110 in tomorrow for that!
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10th Jun 2010 5:34pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 
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Or a tdv6 or v8 or a 5.0 supercharged v8
Seriously - i can believe land rover filing the care details incorrectly or LRO getting it wrong. Next time im in a position 
The other more simple consideration is they are testing an engine in the defender - but not for the defender. They do do that a lot  Mike |
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10th Jun 2010 5:39pm |
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| The Boy Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: East Northants Posts: 1459 
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Sorry but I'm going to go On topic!
2.2 I would think would be hard to notice the diference from the 2.4. But like others have said I the would love to see Toyota busting engine in the stable, a detuned 2.7 V6 in there should do the job. BUT and it is a big but, whats the point of a 150bhp plus engine without a transmission that can handle it? If we think that land rover would devellop a new or stronger transmission this close to a modle change then we are just fooling ourselves. Also it should be noted that land rover should not take all the blame here, indeed no, do you think they had a choice when the 2.4 TDCI and the gear box was offered by Ford? I would say unlikely. The only thing we can hope for is they have listern to people who drive defenders and not the accountants when it comes to building Project Icon. So heres "Hoping" Boy |
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10th Jun 2010 6:01pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4709 
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Better hope the men in suits don't get talking to Briggs and Stratton.
 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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10th Jun 2010 7:01pm |
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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505 
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I`m with you on this |
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10th Jun 2010 7:14pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1585 
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Good job I am picking up my new 110 next week. Even the ford ranger gets more power than defender, cant believe a ranger has a stronger transmission. They havent even got leaf springs and drum brakes.
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10th Jun 2010 7:27pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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I didn't understand.........
Puma 2.2 and Puma 2.4 ARE THE SAME ENGINE!!! the 2.4 have only a little more stroke!!! same bore and 2.2 have less torque!!! Here in Italy the NEW transit with 2.4 Puma TDCi engine 140CV IS EURO5!!!!! From LRO photos seams that the bonnet has a lowered "hunchback"..... but I do not think that for only 2 years LR will change a lot of things if Puma is EU5. Changing the engine (I mean not a Puma engine but another type) means at least, change the gearbox bell, engine mount, ECU, ......... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition 
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10th Jun 2010 7:27pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038
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I wouldnt be surprised that they arent just testing something else Mike
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10th Jun 2010 7:48pm |
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| amtravic1 Member Since: 06 Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1 
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This is from the Australian "Car Advise" web site and refers to the new Ford Ranger ute due in a year or so.
Although speculation suggests that the 2012 Ford Ranger ‘T6′ will use a 1.6-litre variant of the new line of Ford global EcoBoost engines, we believe the Ranger will utilise the 2.0-litre variant of the EcoBoost engine. The upcoming Volkswagen Amorak will hit the ground running with a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine, the 2012 Ford Ranger ‘T6′ is likely to be the same if it is to compete on level ground. Pictured on this production prototype is Ford’s 3.2 litre Puma turbocharged diesel engine. It will replace the current 3.0-litre four-cylinder diesel engine. The 3.2 litre Puma engine produces 150kW and an impressive 470Nm of torque. It can currently be found in the Ford Transit. Insider sources also suggest two other engines will be available in the Ranger. A 2.2 litre four-cylinder turbocharged diesel engine (also codenamed Puma) and a 2.5 litre Duratec petrol engine (identical to engine currently used in Mazda3) will also be available, in addition to the 2.0 litre EcoBoost engine mentioned above. Transmissions expected to make it to launch are the MT75 (five-speed manual gearbox), MT82 (six-speed manual gearbox produced by Getrag) and the 6R80 (six-speed fuel efficient automatic gearbox). Interesting that they mention only a 2.2 and 3.2 litre Puma engine. Now, if the Defender could get the 3.2 litre engine that would be much better. |
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10th Jun 2010 9:58pm |
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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309
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They will have to give the Ranger permanent 4x4 (i.e. use 4x4 all the time) to handle the 3.2 5cyl. I had a 2.5 TDCi Ranger and it was horrendous for spitting the back end out and struggling to getting the power down with just 143PS and 244lb/ft going through the rear. It is the reason I did not bother with the 156PS and 277lb/ft (or however much it is) 3.0 TDCi. I thought it was too much for it to safely get down.
Im guessing Ford are re-shuffling the engine line-up in the Rangetr due to the VW Amarok and upgraded Navara - I believe the 2.5 Navara is now rated at 190ps and the are dropping a 3.0 V6 in rated at 235ps. I wonder if the 2.5TDCi is continuing because they had already agreed to licence it from VM and so it would cost them to drop it and use the 2.4TDCi PUMA instead. |
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11th Jun 2010 6:37am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6300 
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this all ties in with what I've been told - 2.2 puma (not the PSA option as per the FL2)
I believe its all about Ford rationalising their engine line up. has anyone seen or heard anything about a revised pedestrain friendly new bumper coming in with the new engine? further more the 2.2 with have a dpf - I'm about dubious about this as I make a wee small amount of bio diesel and I've heard the two dont mix - anyone know more? |
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11th Jun 2010 11:26am |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101 
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So like i've always said
110 xs sw with D3/4 running gear! |
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11th Jun 2010 2:50pm |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513 
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I reckon it'll take more than a bumper to make the front end of the truck pedestrian friendly. I suppose it might be kinder to their knee caps but I suspect the rest of them will be toast as they slam into the grille.  One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
+ New Defender 110 First Edition |
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11th Jun 2010 9:51pm |
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