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harveyg77



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[quote="dgardel"]I didn't understand.........

Puma 2.2 and Puma 2.4 ARE THE SAME ENGINE!!![/quogreedgreed if it's a puma they're testing. But LR also used the DW12 PSA derived 2.2 TDCi in the Freelander and allegedly in the LRX.

Defender could be a test bed for Ikon or LRX. back in 99-02 Jaguar used to have a fleet of Mk2 Mondeos running 4x4 systems, V8s, the lot as test mules. Dropping PUMA engines from the next gen LR line-up would mean they've got all diesels from the same, latest generation family, wheras the puma is am older engine design which has been superceded in the Ford cars by the PSA derived units. Ford are also allegedly phasing down/out the 1.8 diesel lump which is even older.

It would seem crazy to redevelop an engine for the current Defender when they've only just done that already with the replacement of the TD5 with the 2.4. But who knows Wink

A Prius was scared by a Defender last night on the A52 and a BM 1-series learnt that a Defender can motor on. I opened her up on the way home and suprised them both :-0
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[quote="harveyg77"]
dgardel wrote:
I didn't understand.........

Puma 2.2 and Puma 2.4 ARE THE SAME ENGINE!!![/quogreedgreed if it's a puma they're testing. But LR also used the DW12 PSA derived 2.2 TDCi in the Freelander and allegedly in the LRX.

Defender could be a test bed for Ikon or LRX. back in 99-02 Jaguar used to have a fleet of Mk2 Mondeos running 4x4 systems, V8s, the lot as test mules. Dropping PUMA engines from the next gen LR line-up would mean they've got all diesels from the same, latest generation family, wheras the puma is am older engine design which has been superceded in the Ford cars by the PSA derived units. Ford are also allegedly phasing down/out the 1.8 diesel lump which is even older.

It would seem crazy to redevelop an engine for the current Defender when they've only just done that already with the replacement of the TD5 with the 2.4. But who knows Wink

A Prius was scared by a Defender last night on the A52 and a BM 1-series learnt that a Defender can motor on. I opened her up on the way home and suprised them both :-0


but you were on the wrong carriageway of the A52 harv Laughing 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
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harveyg77



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Texting whilst bladdered too Smile
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Cibit



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Sonic3d wrote:
I like POWER Very Happy i would rather an engine have too much power rather than too little as it makes for a more relaxing motor to drive.Rather than thrashing it to within an inch of its life.
Looking forward to the Dresden Breslau as we`ve been given this Hilux for 2 weeks Very Happy 3.0L and Auto could be a lot of Defender bits for sale upon my return Rolling with laughter



Leave off the jap crap dude and fit your DCPU with a V8 instead Thumbs Up

No one will talk to you in a freakin Toyota and what will you drive when they have another recall Rolling with laughter 59 2.4 110 XS Utility
55 TD5 110 CSW Special Vehicle
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discocuzzy



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Sonic it may have nice toys but mate........its a bloody horrid looking thing!!

I would rather have the underpower defender Thumbs Up You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
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K9F



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I'm going to place a quote from Rick which has been placed on the "Is it like this thread 2012 Defender" rather apt I think!

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rick wrote:
I for one am really excited about the possibilities for the new Defender. If LR pull the plug altogether then we all own a piece of history that will always be cool. If on the other hand LR produce a more modern interpretation of the 110 (like a GWagen) then fantastic, hopefully something to look forward to. I just don't see much of a downside. In the meantime i will continue to totally enjoy my Defender today and let tomorrow happen when it happens.
Cheers,
Rick.


Good point excellently executed! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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LR09WA



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Sonic3d wrote:
I like POWER Very Happy i would rather an engine have too much power rather than too little as it makes for a more relaxing motor to drive.Rather than thrashing it to within an inch of its life.
Looking forward to the Dresden Breslau as we`ve been given this Hilux for 2 weeks Very Happy 3.0L and Auto could be a lot of Defender bits for sale upon my return Rolling with laughter

I bet you will spend a lot of time bogged and trying to get unstuck....... look at it this jap stuff not that good the wheel already fallen off...

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LR09WA



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Shocked Shocked Shocked

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K9F



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Sonic,

You're no more getting rid of your Defender than I am a Chinaman! If you do I will remove my spare wheel and eat it!

Rolling with laughter If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Higgers



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Sonic3d wrote:



GAY!!

(Budweiser powered slander)
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I personnally think it looks good but have not seen it in the flesh, as for getting bogged down with it i doubt it as there was one with us on the Crosier and it was very good offroad Thumbs Up
I think it will be perfect for our 2 weeks at the Dresden Breslau. K9F i hope you have a good appetite Laughing Im terrible for changing vehicles so get ready to eat some tyre Laughing
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Sonic3d



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discocuzzy wrote:
Sonic it may have nice toys but mate........its a bloody horrid looking thing!!

I would rather have the underpower defender Thumbs Up


What gives you the right to call it horrid, you bought a GAY PINK 110 with a dog kennel on the rear Rolling with laughter
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discocuzzy



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It was still cooler than that thing!! You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
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Setok



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I think we're forgetting the most important here: are they bringing back the air vents!? A Landy is only half a Landy without them, damnit.

Yes, I did actually try to squint at the photo to see Smile
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