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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4654  
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The Puma went in for a few days last week to get some warranty work done. I was given an 09 Ford Focus while the Puma was in. Regarding the Focus. There was lots of room for my right elbow and it did not hit off the door. I presume all this room is there to allow you to crane your next to look for on coming traffic before you overtake. The Defender definately scores over the Focus here.
The windscreen rakes toward you and combined with the low roof gives you a claustrophbic feeling. For cabin room the Defender wins again. Rear passenger space, well the Defender comes out on top of course. I could barely see the fuel and temperature gauges in the Focus. Yep the Defender gets top marks here again. The Focus has pedals that a budgie would find small not to mention the handbrake being stuck over by the passenger seat. Two ours driving home and my back and legs were aching. As for noise it was quieter than the Defender until I went over certain types of tarmac then the noise from the back was awful. At least the Defender has a constant low road noise ( Puma version). Fair enough it did a bit more to the gallon than the Defender but why would anyone want to drive something like this when you can enjoy a "real" car is beyond me! There was a 15 year old Tdi in the dealer's yard. If the Puma goes in overnight again I will be taking that! When the Puma went in to the dealer for the work my wife reverted back to the 200 she had driven for 14 years before the Puma arrived. The Focus sat in the garden. The 200 tdi took a little getting used to she said but after a few miles it was as if she had never left it. When the Puma came back and was reappropriated by the wife she arrived in after her first drive saying how wonderful it was and how she missed it. Talk about gratitude, only wish we could have gotten the Puma before our honeymoon all those years ago! A few days on and I must admit that all of this "gratitude" is beginning to take it's toll. I mean I am not as young as I was and there is only so much "gratitude" a man can take. Good grief here comes the Mrs again with that glint of "gratitude" in here eye. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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6th Jun 2010 11:39am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4654
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Nailing my colours to the mast I am definately biased towards the Defender. Another thing I noticed about the Focus was the audio control stalk. This was right below the indicator stalk and I kept hitting off of it when trying to use the indicators! Probably the reason why I am so swayed by the Defender is that we have never owned a "car" type car.It has always been a Land Rover which is why it feels so right to me. Everything else is judged by this yardstick. Some people go from a car to a Land Rover and judge them accordingly. Regarding having the best of both worlds, the Puma is our main car while the 110 200 tdi is "mine" so to speak so it is always a Defender that I find myself in. Just found the Focus too big of a change. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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6th Jun 2010 12:51pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903  
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Think yourself lucky they didn't give you a Freelander 2... I have unclean thoughts every time I get in one! Luckily the Defender has never been away for more than a week so I've not had time to act on them
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6th Jun 2010 3:04pm |
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| MrFlips Member Since: 27 May 2009 Location: Cardiff Posts: 682  
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I totally agree with you Spud: I bought a Series 2A at sixteen and owned it for many years before moving onto Fords and the like. A number of years ago I became broody for another Land Rover, and after looking for a few years bought my current Puma and everything just feels entirely natural and as it should be. I can't imagine ever being without a Defender again. Peter
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6th Jun 2010 10:16pm |
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| johnnyturbo2002 Member Since: 21 May 2009 Location: Poniente Granadino Posts: 371  
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Probably a very stupid question on my part,
but Does the warrenty work provide you with a car or are you charged for it? I believe my dealer tries to charge me for it. 2008 Defender 110 60 year Edition (sold unfortunately) IN the hunt for another Puma for the wifey! 2008 Kia Sorento LX 😁 2.5crdi |
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7th Jun 2010 5:07am |
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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309 
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Im (well the Defender) is going in for warranty work next weeka nd I have been told I will get a Freelander2 - quite excited
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7th Jun 2010 6:36am |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789 
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You won't be for long. Heres the last one they lent me
 Thought i'd better try it offroad.
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7th Jun 2010 7:22am |
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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309
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I love Mk1 Freelanders they got me into LRs, so I'm excited about trying the Mk2 one for a week, far better experience then a loop round the block test drive
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7th Jun 2010 7:47am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4654
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If they have sufficient notice they should provide you with a car. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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7th Jun 2010 9:44am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035 
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Freelanders are great!
On hirecar charging...just to totally alienate the second dealer - i had a row over charging. What they do is dont charge you for the car, but for the insurance, unless you policy covers it (thats a long story but mine does, except this occasion when it wasnt good enough for the day hire, but ok for 3 weeks...anyway) LR warranty pay and cover for a LR hire car (i know they try and parm you off with some ford or similar rubbish) and insurance. If your cars in you dont pay for the car. What annoyed me is both their other "chain" partner and the old dealer dont charge...but they do and the price changes between 10 (principle thing here) and 35 - rip off for a day. Dont start me on Fuel  the numbers empty i have to fill up to get to work, but always seem to be "required" to bring it back quater full - mainly so the sales guys can get home   Mike |
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7th Jun 2010 11:12am |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903
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 @ Willy! Did you wash it off before you took it back? I was paranoid when I had to take mine back and gave it the once over with the jetwash
I've always had a courtesy car when the 90 has gone in, only the first time I had to pay a fiver or something daft as I was under 25, rest of the time it's been free. Although I've always booked it in around a time when a car is available. No idea what would happen if it went in on short notice... |
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7th Jun 2010 10:20pm |
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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309
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I have to say that when I booked in for Warranty work and got offered a coutesy-car, they asked whether I wanted to pay 20 a day to reduce the excess to a few hundred, if I didn't pay, they wopuld cover me for free but with a 1000 excess. Needless to say I am not paying anything.
However, I did over hear someone arguing with the service department because he (the customer) was refusing to pay the isnurance. The dealer staff member was asking for 20 a day, when he refused she disappeared for a few minutes then came out and offered to do it for 10 a day. He was arguing that he should be given a car free under the warranty as it is not his fault the car is defective and he should therefore not be out of pocket. |
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8th Jun 2010 6:49am |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789
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Nope, the've come to expect it now, the mechs think it's hilarious watching the salesmans face. Far worse is AndrewS he's done it to all his courtesy cars including a brand new full fat range rover (FFRR) Maybe he might have some photos Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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8th Jun 2010 7:15am |
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| Cibit Member Since: 26 Oct 2009 Location: Northumberland Posts: 424 
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I was offered a Citroen C1 for a curtesy car.........................I declined the offer and used one of the work vans instead
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8th Jun 2010 12:13pm |
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