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| ti-fat-man Member Since: 08 Feb 2009 Location: Bedford Posts: 517   
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I'm almost 'gingerly' shutting the door now, for fear that the glass will disappear down the void
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3rd Jun 2014 8:44pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6318  
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Not done it myself yet but plan to do so when I get a bit of spare time
My guess is 2 screws on the door handle and the door card just pulls off with the fir tree type fixings that will no doubt break? Glad luck |
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3rd Jun 2014 8:47pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20590
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It's a push fit, there are two pins with a centre piece that pop out first.
Ideally you want a trim removal tool like:  |
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3rd Jun 2014 8:49pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20590
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The above photo is on a Peugeot but that's the style trim tool you really want.
Also need to protect the paint behind from the tool too. Such a tool on E bay is only about £3 all in believe it or not. The fixings are on the extremities and you work you way around popping out one at a time. **Edit, apologies for the double post, accidentally posted in two separate posts.  Last edited by custom90 on 3rd Jun 2014 8:52pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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3rd Jun 2014 8:50pm |
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| r21 Member Since: 25 Apr 2014 Location: Merseyside Posts: 77 
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I actually did this today, there are 2 screw under the door handle, 1 screw in the door opening handle, the plastic around the lock just pops out then you are left with 2 fir tree plugs one in the top right, the other the bottom left. At this point the for card can be levered away releasing 11 hidden fir tree plugs. If you have a manual winder, there is a circlip around the base, lever the door card away and use long nose pliers or a thin screwdriver to pop the cir clip off
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3rd Jun 2014 8:51pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20590
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Here's the link to a tool that'd do the job: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAR-VAN-DOOR-UPH...589c74ae0f
Cheap but it's all you need.  |
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3rd Jun 2014 8:55pm |
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| ti-fat-man Member Since: 08 Feb 2009 Location: Bedford Posts: 517
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Wow.. love this place
cheers guys, I have a lever tool already and have 'popped' the rear door card a couple of times in the past. So after removing the door handle (i've got electric winders) ... Is it a task of locating the same type of fir-tree plugs. Is there a plastic film or similar to breach? |
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3rd Jun 2014 9:07pm |
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| Natlas Member Since: 20 Mar 2013 Location: West Sussex Posts: 462 
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Need to do this with a little care as I have seen the door card fittings get damaged if the tool is not used in the right place but don't let me put you off. It will be worth doing a search on here for more info as recently someone put up the pages of the manual that showed where all the fittings were.
Cheers, John. 2.2 90 XS 88" Series One Old Norton 
Minerva |
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3rd Jun 2014 9:09pm |
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| Oscar Romeo Member Since: 16 Apr 2014 Location: South Yorks, the pinnacle of all human achievement Posts: 121 
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much the same as Steve but I use Bojo tools, this negates the need to put packing in as they are made of plastic, they come in sets or single. they are great for prying apart the dash, removing popers etc
the ones i use the most are the straight point and the angled fork. i use mine every day and for the money they are a great addon to any tool kit. maybe cheaper on fleEbay http://www.bojotoolstore.co.uk/ |
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4th Jun 2014 11:51am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20590
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As mentioned just go careful, no excessive force.
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4th Jun 2014 11:55am |
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| johnszs Member Since: 16 Aug 2010 Location: Hereford Posts: 459 
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dont forget theres a screw behind the door opening handle, inaddition to this on the bottom rear corner and front top corner you will need to push in the little plastic privet pin , if anyone needs pics mine are currently off the truck waiting for doors to be de rusted rust proofed and dynamatted 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon |
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4th Jun 2014 8:02pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Once you've done it once it's a piece of P with little, if any technicality about it. Sometimes the locking button surround can be a bit sticky and not shift easily. Take care not to damage the plastic membrane puttied to the inside of the door, if you rip it then seal with some decent gaffer or duct tape. Check the security of all the bolts, nuts, plastic fittings and clips and take the opportunity to get some anti corrosion wax of your choice inside the door too. If you remove the card often then the plastic clips will eventually become tired and loose so it's useful to have a few spares in hand just in case. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. Last edited by Happyoldgit on 5th Jun 2014 11:48am. Edited 1 time in total |
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5th Jun 2014 11:29am |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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BTW whatever happened to 'practical' Land Rover types who can make do and mend? If you don't have the special tool and you need, or want, to get the job done now then it's easy enough to either make one out of an old wide blade screwdriver or similar. With care you can even use a suitable wide screwdriver or chisel as is without grinding a fork in it. A bit of plastic [old credit card or bit cut from a plastic ice cream or margarine tub] inserted between the door and card when you are levering will protect the paintwork. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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5th Jun 2014 11:47am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20590
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I bought the tool just because it cost sod all, if it'd been £10 + I'd have made do with something else.
I found that the biggest thing to be careful of is the paint. And yes, the door pin section can be a pain but with care it's no problem. I carefully put a flat blade screwdriver under the bottom lip of it and gently prised it up. Again, taking care not I damage the plastic. Once you've one it once you can do it in no time perfectly. With it off sound proofing the doors might be useful to fit at the same time. |
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5th Jun 2014 12:19pm |
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