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chopcat



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Wales 2000 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Java Black
Crossmember vs chassis
So 90 number 2 is needing a new rear crossmember. I think the last one was around £400. Is there any sense in considering a full chassis replacement ? And does anyone have an idea of the cost of swapping to a galvanised one?

Cc
Post #329535 9th May 2014 6:09am
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jimbob7



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Somebody does it on Eblag for about £1500 +chassis. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #329540 9th May 2014 6:27am
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
That depends on the time you have. Whistle
If you do it yourself it the cost off the chassis but double that as you will find more parts you want to replace. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #329541 9th May 2014 6:27am
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
£2600 here, with new brake lines etc... http://www.taysidelandrovers.com/Home.aspx Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #329575 9th May 2014 8:54am
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Interlet



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Best rear crossmember is by black sheep off road and i think substantially cheaper than £400 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
Post #329582 9th May 2014 9:24am
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bob neville



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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
CC

I am going to have the same issue later this year as the TD5's rear X member is slowing vanishing !

I think I am going for a new Richards chassis (about £1,700 delivered). I will probbly do the work myself but if not I will get Marsie (on this forum) to do the job - he is next to Richards factory and seems reasonbly priced.

I will probably factor in a new bulkhead as well.

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !
Post #329584 9th May 2014 9:25am
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Birdy



Member Since: 07 Oct 2011
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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Do NOT make the mistake I made…

My TD5 got to the 10 year mark: well-used but not thrashed, a good honest beast with never a problem in 190,000 miles other than the to-be-expected couple of half-shafts, clutch cylinders and an injector harness replacement.

But, already had a bit of welding around the tow bar fixing, required at least a new cross-member for its next MOT.

A new chassis was priced up by my local indie (Roberts Engineering, to be recommended, does everything from maintaining a customer’s Series I - I’m not a rivet counter but even I know that original bucket seats make it special - to racing V8s) as approx. fifteen hundred quid for the chassis, fifteen hundred quid labour, but expect to add quite a bit more for bushes, brakelines, etc., everything it would be false economy not to replace while the body was off.

Seemed a lot of dosh, I got a good price for the TD5 and ordered a new 2.4.

Absolutely regret it, should’ve re-chassised the TD5 and kept it for another ten years. My advice? Do likewise.

Peter
Post #329591 9th May 2014 9:57am
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zone30



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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
If in the end you do descide to just replace the crossbeam, I'd look into HD versions, maybe even one to fit a rear winch in if you like to go offroad.
Not saying I have any experience though, just a friendly reminder of all the options out there.
Post #329595 9th May 2014 10:15am
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Limey



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Italy 
Sorry to hijack a bit, but Birdy, what you said about regretting swapping your Td5 caught my interest. Can I ask you why?
Post #329681 9th May 2014 3:11pm
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Birdy



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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
(1) The 2.4/2.2 is quieter at motorway speeds and has better fuel consumption; it has good heating and the heated front screen is a Godsend.

(2) The TD5 was better to tow with (my PERSONAL opinion, others on here will disagree, but the 6-speed gearbox ratios seem to have been designed for fuel economy rather than towing practicality) and had a better turning circle (not the greatest, but carpark manoeuvring with the 2.4 makes one look a complete idiot).

Otherwise, there isn’t too much difference, the TDCi will soon be equally as rattly and juicy as the old vehicle and, let’s face it, to anybody other than an enthusiast they all look the bl….dy same. Ergo, the twenty grand I spent to arrive at (1) would have been more wisely spent on getting the TD5 up to scratch with lots to spare.

I was expecting a huge improvement for my twenty grand, I’m hugely disappointed. Hasn’t stopped me lodging five hundred quid with my dealer for one of the last 2015s, though!

Peter
Post #329686 9th May 2014 3:37pm
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Limey



Member Since: 18 Oct 2013
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Italy 
Thanks Peter. I've quietly considered one of the last Defenders, hence the question.

For now, I really enjoy my Td5, but am having some issues (which is another thread)...
Post #329688 9th May 2014 3:47pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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Birdy wrote:
(2) The TD5 ... had a better turning circle (not the greatest, but carpark manoeuvring with the 2.4 makes one look a complete idiot).

That's got to just be an issue of adjustment. The underpinnings are exactly the same Confused Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia
Post #329693 9th May 2014 4:06pm
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Dave T



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Cairns Blue
When I changed my chassis a couple of years ago in my neighbours drive this was what it cost

Marsland chassis 1248
Springs, shocks, 1inch spacers, timing belt kit, clutch, brake pipes, door repair kits, a frame bushes, 550
Tree slider 120
Nuts, bolts, washers, anti freeze, cutting discs, pullers and various other odds and sods from tool station and screw fix, probably around 150
Water pump, belt, thermostat 50
Horn 1
Bulkhead delivered 350
Paint 42
Brake hoses, steering damper, Suspension Turret ring, rear pads 88
Mud console switches 80
Work light 10
Fuel sender unit 20
Labour for door and seat box repairs 80


Coming to about £2789, reasonable considering all that I did.

If anyone is interested, I kept a diary of what I did here http://slroc2.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7224.0 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
1994 Def 90 300tdi
Post #329694 9th May 2014 4:10pm
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bga86



Member Since: 17 Jan 2014
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2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Fuji White
Currently having the same problem, my 01 td5 90 front cross member and chassis legs are toasted (well beyond repair) also needs and outrigger and the patches behind centre cross member welding. Anyone with experience of changing a td5 chassis/ bulkhead got any pointers?
Would also agree with birdy, have owned td5's previously, driven hundreds of pumas and currently drive a 2.4 (sales car from work) but the td5 is by far the better of the two in my opinion in so many ways, the sound, the drive ability, the gearbox and the towing are all plus points over the puma Thumbs Up
Post #329709 9th May 2014 5:04pm
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Ragerover



Member Since: 26 Dec 2013
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United Kingdom 
I've got a really good chassis for a 90 for sale you could get it gavy for £250

Or I've got a brand new x member if anyone's intersested
Post #331084 14th May 2014 8:41pm
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