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Frenchy90



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zambezi Silver
More articulation.
Hi all
I'm looking to gain some more articulation but keep the on road performance and found this online

http://foundry4x4.co.uk/index.php?route=pr...duct_id=77

I was wondered if this is a good solution or am I just going to have to sacrifice the on road performance. I'm not looking to lift as really want to avoid the complications that brings.

If anyone has any advice or experience I would appreciate it.
Post #329074 7th May 2014 4:38pm
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custom90



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"The kit DOES NOT fit any Td5/Puma/Tdci 90 Though a kit is under development."
Not much use to many of us really with that being the case.
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Frenchy90



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zambezi Silver
I read the article about it not being for 90 (should have made that clear in my question) but is there anything else on the market?
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big steve



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red
devon 4x4 or gwyn lewis dont waste your money on anything else

steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
Post #329090 7th May 2014 5:29pm
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landy andy



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And handled on road better than a standard suspension setup.

Gwyn Lewis.

Andy
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johnszs



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Cant go wrong with either gwyns setup or devons.


i used a combination of them but have koni +2 shocks atm 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon
Post #329098 7th May 2014 6:02pm
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zone30



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Do you have a link of these?
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psimpson7



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landy andy wrote:

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And handled on road better than a standard suspension setup.

Gwyn Lewis.

Andy


Front is doing basically nothing! 2001 90 HT 6.0LS/6spdAuto.
2003 90 td5 soft top.
2014 90 XS SW 2.2.
Post #329181 8th May 2014 12:30am
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big steve



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unless you replace the front with something different it wont but also driving up something forwards doesnt give a true degree of how much flex/articulation you can get if he had reversed up there it may have been different
i run a single link on my truck thats the only true way of getting more from the front or 3 link

steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
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psimpson7



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Yep fully aware of that, but a metre of rear travel and almost no front travel isn't an ideal balance 2001 90 HT 6.0LS/6spdAuto.
2003 90 td5 soft top.
2014 90 XS SW 2.2.
Post #329183 8th May 2014 1:53am
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big steve



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red
The Gwyn Lewis set up allows any one will to be off the ground the height of a 50gallon drum with all others touching Thumbs Up

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
Post #329197 8th May 2014 6:21am
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munch90



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unless you got a bit of weight pushing down on the wheels , any wheel just resting on the ground will have very very little amount of grip anyway

if your going to have extreme movement your best to have diff locks to transfer drive to wheels that have grip
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Anderzander



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Balance is the answer. It's very easy to unbalance the standard set up by fitting longer shocks and so on - because as has been said the std rear suspension doesn't bind and will allow huge amounts of travel - the double bushes radius arm set up does bind and won't.

Where the travel is imbalanced you get the situation where the weight isn't centred and traction is negatively affected accordingly. From memory there is a video on YouTube showing articulation vs cross axle difflock. The articulation they show though is all at the rear and the vehicle fails on a climb because whilst it can maintain contact with all it's wheels it isn't getting any traction. Making the back so easy to move seems to actually reduce the amount the front moves.

I think a little more travel, which is reasonably balanced, could be achieved by going for +2 shocks and keeping the anti roll bar. +2 shock mounts would put the increase in compression - whilst just 2" longer shocks would increase the rebound / drop.

For more travel the next step is slotted bushes and after that one link / 3 link set up - but that's a lot of work.
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Anderzander



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Here's an old video of mine :

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