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| Frenchy90 Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: Surrey Posts: 29   
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Hi all
I'm looking to gain some more articulation but keep the on road performance and found this online http://foundry4x4.co.uk/index.php?route=pr...duct_id=77 I was wondered if this is a good solution or am I just going to have to sacrifice the on road performance. I'm not looking to lift as really want to avoid the complications that brings. If anyone has any advice or experience I would appreciate it. |
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7th May 2014 5:38pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1909  
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But for us big 110 boys it looks good
 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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7th May 2014 5:54pm |
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| Frenchy90 Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: Surrey Posts: 29
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I read the article about it not being for 90 (should have made that clear in my question) but is there anything else on the market?
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7th May 2014 6:10pm |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456  
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devon 4x4 or gwyn lewis dont waste your money on anything else
steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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7th May 2014 6:29pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5584 
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 Click image to enlarge And handled on road better than a standard suspension setup. Gwyn Lewis. Andy |
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7th May 2014 6:42pm |
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| johnszs Member Since: 16 Aug 2010 Location: Hereford Posts: 459 
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Cant go wrong with either gwyns setup or devons.
i used a combination of them but have koni +2 shocks atm 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon |
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7th May 2014 7:02pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669  
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Do you have a link of these?
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7th May 2014 10:00pm |
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| psimpson7 Member Since: 20 Nov 2013 Location: Gold Coast, Qld. Posts: 221  
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Front is doing basically nothing! 2001 90 HT 6.0LS/6spdAuto. 2003 90 td5 soft top. 2014 90 XS SW 2.2. |
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8th May 2014 1:30am |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456
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unless you replace the front with something different it wont but also driving up something forwards doesnt give a true degree of how much flex/articulation you can get if he had reversed up there it may have been different
i run a single link on my truck thats the only true way of getting more from the front or 3 link steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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8th May 2014 2:40am |
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| psimpson7 Member Since: 20 Nov 2013 Location: Gold Coast, Qld. Posts: 221
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Yep fully aware of that, but a metre of rear travel and almost no front travel isn't an ideal balance 2001 90 HT 6.0LS/6spdAuto.
2003 90 td5 soft top. 2014 90 XS SW 2.2. |
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8th May 2014 2:53am |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456
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The Gwyn Lewis set up allows any one will to be off the ground the height of a 50gallon drum with all others touching
Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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8th May 2014 7:21am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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unless you got a bit of weight pushing down on the wheels , any wheel just resting on the ground will have very very little amount of grip anyway
if your going to have extreme movement your best to have diff locks to transfer drive to wheels that have grip |
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8th May 2014 7:34am |
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| Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 999
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Balance is the answer. It's very easy to unbalance the standard set up by fitting longer shocks and so on - because as has been said the std rear suspension doesn't bind and will allow huge amounts of travel - the double bushes radius arm set up does bind and won't.
Where the travel is imbalanced you get the situation where the weight isn't centred and traction is negatively affected accordingly. From memory there is a video on YouTube showing articulation vs cross axle difflock. The articulation they show though is all at the rear and the vehicle fails on a climb because whilst it can maintain contact with all it's wheels it isn't getting any traction. Making the back so easy to move seems to actually reduce the amount the front moves. I think a little more travel, which is reasonably balanced, could be achieved by going for +2 shocks and keeping the anti roll bar. +2 shock mounts would put the increase in compression - whilst just 2" longer shocks would increase the rebound / drop. For more travel the next step is slotted bushes and after that one link / 3 link set up - but that's a lot of work. |
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8th May 2014 8:09am |
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| Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 999
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Here's an old video of mine :
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8th May 2014 8:13am |
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